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This was from back in 2012 when I was being ferried around by FSG's drivers in Boston.

I might ask the question again grin

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NO ! They just proved they don't have the club's best interests at heart. Best to move on quickly and quietly, shame really, as they were doing ok as owners but trust has gone now.

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Originally Posted By Andred
NO ! They just proved they don't have the club's best interests at heart. Best to move on quickly and quietly, shame really, as they were doing ok as owners but trust has gone now.


They actually do have the club's best interest at heart, financial interest. Not sure what trust you had which has gone now, for me nothing has changed whatsoever. They are no different to any one of the owners of those 15 clubs, the biggest in Europe, except Bayern and PSG who know they will always qualify for CL. Dont understand all this naivety

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Is it about trust?

If you look at the big 6 and fans reaction

The owners of Chelsea and Man City are not being criticized by their fans? Why? Because they both plough their own money into the teams.


If you look at us, Man Utd and Arsenal. We all have American owners who do not fund either team with their own money but instead take from the clubs.

I don't believe like other fans are conned to that FSG take nothing from the club and are "good" owners.

The amount we have raked in from TV money, CL money, player sales, sponsorship, that money does not just vanish.

so no I don't think its trust. I think it is a matter of ability to fund the club, and the amount of billionaires in FSG that should not be a problem.

I think its greed, our owners are greedy, they purely want more money above anything else.

greed is good as they say in the us of ameeeeekia.

But it looks like all American owners see British clubs as cash cows I have said this all alone.


So is it trust?
In a way, I trust they are only concerned with the mighty dollar.

Do I trust any of the big 6 owners? Nope, but when they spend their own money on your team, the trust issue is not so important.

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Owners are always going to do what is best for them/their investment, if you plough £100's millions into a business, you want to maximise that, so I would not trust any owners really, the fans want success and trophies, the owners want profit and trophies.

I think FSG were doing what they thought they needed to do to keep us competitive/successful, we are ran as a club which is self sufficient, but our major rivals are not, they have Oligarch's or states owning them who can pour money into the club to deliver success, without any need for a financial return. We have been lucky Klopp has managed to keep must close to City with his buys and team coaching, but that can only last so long, we have seen with this seasons injuries/form how we have suffered but Man City can have 2 first teams in effect.

I am guessing FSG saw the ESL as a leveller, the money generated would mean we could compete with the Man City's/Chelsea etc, if we would not have joined the ESL, the rival PL teams that did would have streaked ahead of us due to their income.

We have protested against FSG attempts to increase income with Ticket price increases, we complained about the ESL and got that stopped, but we will all be wanting us to make big signings of the likes of Haaland & Mbappe in the summer.

This is not a black & white decision to me, the pontificating from SKY makes me sick, like they are the saviours of PL football, they were just terrified of losing their investment as the PL would become meaningless with the ESL.

Makes me wonder what UEFA have offered/promise Man City to have them pull out the ESL first, no more investigations/FFP? they never needed ESL due to their owners, so I never understood why joined anyways?

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Originally Posted By ecnirp98
Owners are always going to do what is best for them/their investment, if you plough £100's millions into a business, you want to maximise that, so I would not trust any owners really, the fans want success and trophies, the owners want profit and trophies.

I think FSG were doing what they thought they needed to do to keep us competitive/successful, we are ran as a club which is self sufficient, but our major rivals are not, they have Oligarch's or states owning them who can pour money into the club to deliver success, without any need for a financial return. We have been lucky Klopp has managed to keep must close to City with his buys and team coaching, but that can only last so long, we have seen with this seasons injuries/form how we have suffered but Man City can have 2 first teams in effect.

I am guessing FSG saw the ESL as a leveller, the money generated would mean we could compete with the Man City's/Chelsea etc, if we would not have joined the ESL, the rival PL teams that did would have streaked ahead of us due to their income.

We have protested against FSG attempts to increase income with Ticket price increases, we complained about the ESL and got that stopped, but we will all be wanting us to make big signings of the likes of Haaland & Mbappe in the summer.

This is not a black & white decision to me, the pontificating from SKY makes me sick, like they are the saviours of PL football, they were just terrified of losing their investment as the PL would become meaningless with the ESL.

Makes me wonder what UEFA have offered/promise Man City to have them pull out the ESL first, no more investigations/FFP? they never needed ESL due to their owners, so I never understood why joined anyways?






All the big clubs were there, so it's totally normal that they joined.

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We would probably have been insulted if Liverpool wasn´t invited into the Super league but when the owners wanted to participate we didn´t want to be there.

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Here is where they crossed the line and are thus unforgivable.

1. They didn't consult the manager, players, or fans. Not a single one.
2. They showed a blatant disrespect for the club's history and the game's traditions.
3. They were fooled by Perez to join a gangster cartel solely intent on rescuing Real and Barca.
4. They tried to enforce an unsporting precedent with no regard for the wellbeing of others.
5. They make one blatant mistake per year and never learn, whether it's wanting to film Dalglish's sacking for the documentary, the furlough situation, the ticket price issue, or this superleague travesty. They are so thoroughly ignorant and don't wish to learn.

Get them out!

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Originally Posted By The Kop Prophet
Here is where they crossed the line and are thus unforgivable.

1. They didn't consult the manager, players, or fans. Not a single one.
2. They showed a blatant disrespect for the club's history and the game's traditions.
3. They were fooled by Perez to join a gangster cartel solely intent on rescuing Real and Barca.
4. They tried to enforce an unsporting precedent with no regard for the wellbeing of others.
5. They make one blatant mistake per year and never learn, whether it's wanting to film Dalglish's sacking for the documentary, the furlough situation, the ticket price issue, or this superleague travesty. They are so thoroughly ignorant and don't wish to learn.

Get them out!


Get them out? They are tge landlords not tenants if ever you didn't know

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Originally Posted By The Kop Prophet
Here is where they crossed the line and are thus unforgivable.

1. They didn't consult the manager, players, or fans. Not a single one.
2. They showed a blatant disrespect for the club's history and the game's traditions.
3. They were fooled by Perez to join a gangster cartel solely intent on rescuing Real and Barca.
4. They tried to enforce an unsporting precedent with no regard for the wellbeing of others.
5. They make one blatant mistake per year and never learn, whether it's wanting to film Dalglish's sacking for the documentary, the furlough situation, the ticket price issue, or this superleague travesty. They are so thoroughly ignorant and don't wish to learn.

Get them out!


Nobody did all that as it was all kept secret for obvious reasons. Not saying it was right but all the big clubs did the same except the Germans, mainly Bayern. As for getting them out, just that you know, United fans have been trying for ages to get owners who are ripping off the clubs time and time again, in vain.

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