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Originally Posted By jim_beam
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We can all love Klopp and thank him for the great times but a manager of Liverpool team that loses 5 Anfield games in a row must be at the end of his job.


Understand the frustration but talk like this in my opinion anyway is bloody ridiculous.

The guy has literally got us to a final every season, won us the champions league and premier league back to back on a shoestring budget, but please, if you know someone else who could do that for our club tell us who? Especially against City and Pep.

Look he may well be coming to the end of his time but to boot him out of the door early is daft. There is every chance when we have most of our players available and a couple of new signings and tweaks we are going again next season. If next season starts off as dire as this then get rid that is fair enough.

Tuchel winning the league or europe next season is a certainty is it?

I think Klopp has enough credit in the bank to have a bit of time to get over a poor spell if he chooses.


Yes, he is still in the job because he has lots of credit or he doesn't put pressure on FSG to spend...or both.

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the obvious solution is fsg back klopp in this next transfer window we don't need wholesale changes but definitely maybe three ish big signings and ship some out.

If that's not the case the fans need an fsg out campaign


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
the obvious solution is fsg back klopp in this next transfer window we don't need wholesale changes but definitely maybe three ish big signings and ship some out.

If that's not the case the fans need an fsg out campaign



Can't see us spending high in the next window

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Even with fans and revenue back after Covid I cannot see a massive spend happening. We do need to cut away the dead wood again but this won't be a good time to sell.

Klopp is trying to drive the same car as 2 years ago but it looks like 3 wheels have fallen off now. Unlike 95% of other managers out there he doesn't know (and won't accept) playing for the draw. Unfortunately in the scenario we are in now that could be his downfall. I think we will get found out on Weds night.

Retrospectively 5 draws in our last 5 home games would have been bang awful form.

But we would still be top 4 now.

Klopp should stay but in a results driven world, irrespective of Covid, injuries, personal tragedies you can see how he would become collateral damage at another club by now.

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Originally Posted By AccaBoosty
Even with fans and revenue back after Covid I cannot see a massive spend happening. We do need to cut away the dead wood again but this won't be a good time to sell.

Klopp is trying to drive the same car as 2 years ago but it looks like 3 wheels have fallen off now. Unlike 95% of other managers out there he doesn't know (and won't accept) playing for the draw. Unfortunately in the scenario we are in now that could be his downfall. I think we will get found out on Weds night.

Retrospectively 5 draws in our last 5 home games would have been bang awful form.

But we would still be top 4 now.

Klopp should stay but in a results driven world, irrespective of Covid, injuries, personal tragedies you can see how he would become collateral damage at another club by now.


If we don't change the line up in front now, then it will tell me that he has no clue and we should start looking for another manager, I think Firmino should be benched, Salah played CF with Mane and Jota as wingers

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I agree with that Vish but I would remodel fiminho as a midfielder


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I think the reasons are fairy simple.

Klopp's approach is suited to a team that's on the hunt and developing. i.e. whilst other teams still take on his team in the belief that they can win. It also relies on having the players that have been trained to play his way and who are good enough.

As soon as other teams realise that they can't match the relentlessness and intensity of a Klopp team and decide primarily to defend against it, then Klopp's teams struggle to break them down. Add to that, if he loses key players then then he can't keep getting the wins. In this case he has lost key defenders as well. Hence less goals scored, more goals conceded, overall disaster.

Basically, I've concluded that Klopp's teams and style are great when they are the hunters but it doesn't work when they become the hunted.

Klopp is a bit like Wenger. He has a philosophy about how the game should be played and is trying to stick to it. Unfortunately, unless you have the resources to maintain a big squad with top class cover in every position, you have to be tactical to get results sometimes.

If he doesn't bring more flexibility into his approach then I'm afraid things won't get any better - unless we sign some top talent which I doubt FSG will do.


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I think the Wenger comparison is fair in some ways but if Klopp goes we might have to take a big step backwards to go forwards. And the fear is that might lead to another 30 years without a league title.

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I don't think Klopp should go. But something has to change. Either has accept that his job is to get results irrespective of how the team plays or FSG has to fund a bigger and better squad. Probably a bit of both is required.


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Originally Posted By TheMightyLFC
I don't think Klopp should go. But something has to change. Either has accept that his job is to get results irrespective of how the team plays or FSG has to fund a bigger and better squad. Probably a bit of both is required.


What does that mean, he doesn't know that yet? Wtf are you talking about?

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