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Our owners have helped deliver the PL, CL, 2 lost finals (Europa & CL) and have scored one of the highest PL totals while losing the PL, so I find it hard to be too critical of them.

But I think they are being too conservative on transfers, we should build on success, it's not about net spend for me, Utd have one the largest net spends and have bought aload of dross that didn't fit their system/team by buying 'names' until recently, but the signings should be led by Klopp & his team, so if they wanted Werner/Thiago/Kavertz, FSG should back them based on their success and money spent.

And if at the end of this new season we win the PL again without spending millions and millions the owners will be justified yet again.

On the other hand we could spend millions and not win it.

Spending millions does not guarantee anything.

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Having said that I would not be surprised if we went for Sarr. Last time a player ripped us apart all on his own was Mane at Southampton and Klopp went and got him in the next window.

Fergie was probably a fool then when he kept on buying one or two top players every year when he was winning tons of titles every season. Why do you think Klopp wanted to buy Werner, what was broke and now fixed?

This if it ain't broke don't fix it mentality is why Tottenham stop challenging for Titles. We have an excellent squad, but over time we've realised that the squad is prone to injuries like Keita, Matip and Alex, or don't get enough playing time, like Shaqiri. If we want to be a great team, we need to keep challenging for titles, and win 2 or 3 a season - and we dont even need to go bust like city.

Fergy also knew when not to buy and use what you had, like when he was bringing the kids through, it wasn't all spend, spend, spend, what he made sure he did was have strength in depth, whether that was by buying players (not always huge stars, who knew Ole/Johnsen before he bought them) or by bringing through players, which is what Klopp is trying to do.

One of our weak points was LB, we all knew that, Milner was not able to cover that well enough, no one was ready to step up, so we went and bought someone who Klopp and his team identified, that's how it should be. City have bought loads of FB at £50+ million, ours are still better (from the academy and £8 million from a relegated club), thats the best way to do it.

We have bought the Greek lad to play LB. Now to be honest that is too much as a cover player in that specialist position for any team except City. Are we going to see Trent going into midfield in the next 12 months or so?

We were all on about getting so close to the PL this time last season and we bought nobody. That didn't turn out too bad did it?

Klopp has built a squad on discipline and effort. The moment there is any drop off then that player is dealt with and this has happened time after time. Right from the start he has been his own man and anybody who isn't right has been dealt with irrespective of talent. Balotelli, Sakho, Moreno, Flanagan, Can, Coutinho, Buvac, Duncan. Anybody not sharing his vision is gone. Some into absolute oblivion.

We are going to struggle when he is gone because that mentality just cannot be replicated or continued as we know it.

The likes of City and Chelsea can buy success up to a point. At Liverpool you have to earn it and Klopp leads by example. It may be true he wanted Werner but there have been a lot of high profile top targets we have chased who have not turned out to be so great after all. Remember how we were after Nabil Fekir, Thomas Lemar and Nicolas Pepe. All of these very highly linked in the last 2 years. None of them came. None of them would have improved us. Look at where they are now. Fekir would have cost £60m, Lemar £90m and Pepe £70m.

Please think of these players when you see us linked with big money signings. We have "missed the boat" (thank God) on a number of occasions. We have sold at the right time, we have sold several players for ridiculous fees, Coutinho of course but what about the others?

Canos £4.5m, Sakho £26m, Benteke £32m, Ibe £15m, Smith £6m, Solanke £19m, Camacho £7m, Stewart £8m, Ward £12.5m and a fair few others who were not good enough for LFC. Ejaria has just gone to Reading for £3.5m and there are rumours Awoniyi might go to Celtic for £9m.

OK so it's not him that is determining the price of the sales but I am sure he has an idea of a price for a purchase and what is too much to pay for a player within his vision for the team.

It must have been so easy for Pep to have had £200m plus after one season to correct his defence. It hasn't stood the test of time although he has delivered 2 titles in 4 years and for the width of a matchstick it might only have been 1.

So after a CL win it wasn't broke and didn't need fixing.
After a PL win I believe it's not broke and don't need fixing.
But after we win the PL again this coming season we will have the clamour again for splashing the cash.

Give it another go in 12 months guys. You got to be right sometime. Even a broken clock gives the right time twice a day.

These players are already legends for that trophy haul but the club should do whatever it can to continue building a lasting dynasty and that means you continue to improve, adapt and strengthen on a season by season basis, Fergie did this as others have mentioned. It's an old saying that you strengthen while at the top but this seems to be ignored by the club in the last couple of transfer windows.

I think we should build a statue to Coutinho because without his money, no Vvd, no Allison, and no PL title as these owners will never spend the profits of the club to make us better, they are just happy with the occasional trophy every 5 years but they got lucky with Klopp and Salah and Mane signings that have powered us to these titles.

We've sold Lovren, and Lallana has gone and also rather quietly Clyne. Lovren and Lallana played a part in the last few seasons, maybe not a great amount but a part they played...they were there ready to play when called upon and that's all part of the strength indepth part of a team. As far as I can see we haven't replaced them and the kids and perennial loanees aren't ready to contribute so we are 2 fairly important players down, making central defence and midfield weak on experience and numbers.

If you ever hear the former title winning old guard, Thompson, Dalglish, Souness etc... talk about their time, they always say how the likes of Shanks, Paisley, Fagan brought in more players each season to keep everybody else on their toes. They never made do, because the theory was players become less hungry for success with no competition for their place in the team.

What if we have major injuries to the likes of Mane, Salah, Bobby, VVD, TAA, Robbo, Alisson? We've been incredibly fortunate to avoid big injuries these past few seasons...are we willing to cross our fingers and hope for the best with our squad?

An honest question for folks do you believe we can go and win the PL Title again this coming season as things stand?

Spend, spend, spend? Are you serious? Just go on the link I put above, you'll note that there are 13 clubs in the EPL that have a higher net spend than us in the EPL, how have we been spending, spending and spending? Nobody here is asking to spend as Chelsea or City but at least to spend some of the money the club has been generating. We have been one of the most profitable clubs in the last 5 years, let's not forget about that please.

i can understand the prudence on spending but not liking it one bit.

i can see Sarr and Thiago coming in with Shaq, Wilson, Grujic, Gigi and even Origi moving out.
actually CB is quite a worry if any one of VvD or Gomez gets injured.