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He's a good player, he has improved them, that's what you get when you spend £70 million on a player, but they still have a dodgy defence, Martial recently played his 1 good game in 20, Pogba will blow up again soon and De Gea is still an accident waiting to happen, Greenwood looks a good player, while Ole is in charge they will be top 4/challenging but not winning PL.

You can't read anything into recent stats, as this situation is so unique, players taking a long break and some coming back great, some looking awful, playing in empty stadia, look at how Sheffield Utd suffered coming back, they are droppong out of top 4 running.


Well, he has cost 47m plus add ons and he joined before the break. I think their defence look quite good now, they are not conceding much and if they add Sancho, I think they will be contenders. So you feel nothing to worry about?


Not while OGS is in charge, with the money Utd have they will always be contenders and can afford to waste money on players like Sanchez, Falcao & Di Maria to find the occasional nugget, they were always going to improve, so I do not see the big surprise?

£70-80 million was the quoted price with add-ons, but depends what those add-ons are and if they will be met.


They bought him for 47m that could reach 68m in a few years if targets are met. Another player who could have improved our attack which apparently Klopp liked. OGS is gaining experience and therefore will gain consistency, IMO, they will be challenging for the league next season, especially if they reinforce further. They have beaten City home and away this season, undefeated over 16 games

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I wouldn't say too worried, they still have gaping weaknesses and will try and buy their way out of it but improved they have and we don't really know how far Ole can take them.

More reason to add a couple of solid players and I don't think people are being unreasonable asking for signings given the income vs expenditure the last few years.

Increadible season, great first 11, but why not add to it and pull further ahead of the like of MU and Chelsea? They'll never get a VvD but could buy 2 CB's better than Gomez. We need to upgrade Lovren so we don't need to consider our best midfielder at CB. I love Firmino, but we need another option up top, a better alternative than Origi. Now's a great time to invest in long term solutions like Sancho.



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Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By ecnirp98
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He's a good player, he has improved them, that's what you get when you spend £70 million on a player, but they still have a dodgy defence, Martial recently played his 1 good game in 20, Pogba will blow up again soon and De Gea is still an accident waiting to happen, Greenwood looks a good player, while Ole is in charge they will be top 4/challenging but not winning PL.

You can't read anything into recent stats, as this situation is so unique, players taking a long break and some coming back great, some looking awful, playing in empty stadia, look at how Sheffield Utd suffered coming back, they are droppong out of top 4 running.


Well, he has cost 47m plus add ons and he joined before the break. I think their defence look quite good now, they are not conceding much and if they add Sancho, I think they will be contenders. So you feel nothing to worry about?


Not while OGS is in charge, with the money Utd have they will always be contenders and can afford to waste money on players like Sanchez, Falcao & Di Maria to find the occasional nugget, they were always going to improve, so I do not see the big surprise?

£70-80 million was the quoted price with add-ons, but depends what those add-ons are and if they will be met.


They bought him for 47m that could reach 68m in a few years if targets are met. Another player who could have improved our attack which apparently Klopp liked. OGS is gaining experience and therefore will gain consistency, IMO, they will be challenging for the league next season, especially if they reinforce further. They have beaten City home and away this season, undefeated over 16 games


I expect Utd will be challenging, with Chelsea, but I think it will be between us & City again, depending what happens at City (Pep staying etc)

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I am worried by them. Think they will be genuine contenders next season specially if they get into CL.

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Clubs are getting better each season I don't know why that is surprising to anyone? We have Wolves and Leicester trying to break into the top4 nevermind Utd who can buy anyone for any price and give them double or triple the wage we can offer. Chelsea are improving, next season it's a 4 way battle for the title. It will be tougher because this season we only needed to focus on City while others just tripped themselves up.


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Clubs are getting better each season I don't know why that is surprising to anyone? We have Wolves and Leicester trying to break into the top4 nevermind Utd who can buy anyone for any price and give them double or triple the wage we can offer. Chelsea are improving, next season it's a 4 way battle for the title. It will be tougher because this season we only needed to focus on City while others just tripped themselves up.


I dont think anybody is surprised with this but rather why are we not reinforcing to get better

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Why do you think we will not reinforce? Season is not over yet last time I checked.


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Why do you think we will not reinforce? Season is not over yet last time I checked.


It is what I am hearing from the club, the CEO and even Klopp, just putting a link as you probably haven't followed the different articles and interviews, not counting that we have already missed one player Klopp wanted. Chelsea bought 2 players before that the season was over

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1306484/Liverpool-transfer-news-Jurgen-Klopp-Thiago-rumours

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Here we have the reason for us seemingly not reinforcing this summer:

https://apnews.com/c930332be9865d28863ccea7644e170c

Player wages reaching over 69% of the revenue level.

Massive losses expected for the current and upcoming season.

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European soccer clubs expect to lose 4 billion euros ($4.5 billion) in revenue over the next year because of the coronavirus pandemic, according to a study released Tuesday by the European Club Association.

The ECA estimated clubs in 55 countries face a collective shortfall of 1.6 billion euros ($1.8 billion) this season and 2.4 billion euros ($2.7 billion) in the 2020-21 campaign. The analysis excluded possible transfer market profits.

“The results demonstrate that the financial impact of COVID-19 on European clubs … is already a seismic shock,” ECA chief executive Charlie Marshall said.

ECA chairman Andrea Agnelli, who is also the president of Italian club Juventus, has called the pandemic “a real existential threat” to the soccer industry.

FIFA has committed hundreds of millions of dollars from its financial reserves to make grants and interest-free loans to member federations, which can choose to invest in club soccer.

The pandemic has affected broadcasting deals around the world and forced games to be played with few or no fans in stadiums, hurting club revenue.

In the 10 leagues researched by the ECA — including the five wealthiest of England, France, Germany, Italy and Spain — clubs face losing 400 million euros ($450 million) in ticket sales this season and 1.1 billion euros ($1.2 billion) next season.

“The financial impact does not stop when the game resumes,” Marshall said. “Rather, it will continue into the next season and we must take measures to create a more sustainable football industry in the long run.”

Spending 60% of revenue on salaries is typically seen as a balanced benchmark for top clubs.

The ECA, which has 246 members, predicts that ratio will rise from 59.6% last season in the top five leagues to 69.3% next season.

In lower-ranked leagues, clubs spending more than their total revenue on salaries “could become even more widespread,” the ECA predicted.

“The upcoming transfer market will give us the next indication of economic motivation and the state of football’s health,” Marshall said, “but time should also be taken now to examine more fundamental operating cost structures.”

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