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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
If I called you an old brown man would that be acceptable ? of course not you are both a huge racist and a huge hypocrite re the player's shirts it should have had "kick it out" the FA,s campaign not BLM.

BLM is a political group and a violent and dangerous one at that. One of their aims is to banish capitalism how ironic none of the premiership clubs would exist were BLM ever to gain power


No, only because I am not old, otherwise ok issues, I have no problem with the truth as I am brown. I am the racist, really, dont make people laugh, we all know your views.


You are judging people on the colour of their skin if that's not racist then I don't know what is. As for being old that's relative and being older is not a crime or a negative unless you are a bigot and you are no spring chicken yourself matey


Judging people? Dont know what you are talking about.

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Originally Posted By ghostgoal
I think it should have been suspended until crowds are allowed back into the games. Which is probably around a month from now looking at how things are going. Abandoning the season all together would be silly when 3/4’s of it has already been played and the future of so many clubs depend on what position they finish. The season can be finished in a short space of time with only 9 games left to play and all other comps being abandoned. Also, it’s a bit of a big ask hoping that “politics should stay out of football” when nearly half of the premier league players are black and clearly feel very strongly about what’s happened recently. Who are we to say that they can’t express their opinion, stance of solidarity, political or otherwise? Yes they are football players and we the fans of the club that employs them. But they are human beings first, and thus have a right to freedom of expression. If racism can’t be kept out of football then there’s no chance of keeping politics out of it.


I dont think crowds will be allowed in 1 month, not until a vaccine is found I would think. And I agree that players should be allowed to express themselves and it's not only the black players and black fans who feel strongly about what hapoend but probably a big majority, otherwise it would not have got the momentum it has. However, there are some who dont get it.

Last edited by EnergisedReds; 21/06/20 03:18 AM.
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Black lives matter is a political organisation and a pretty extreme one at that. I don't agree with political slogans in football but if they wanted to make a statement about racism then surely they could have used "kick it out" which they have been using for years that is non political I also don't think this political initiative by the FA is popular either with the players or the fans. The fact no player has refused to kneel either means every single premiership player agrees with it entirely or they are too frightened not to. Any player who refused would put their family at risk and be demonised

Last edited by Stanley Park; 21/06/20 11:11 AM.

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OK so I was trying to follow the topic until it went sideways for a while lol smile

In terms of the original post yes it's nowhere near as good and the integrity of the competition is obviously gone however to just say we shouldn't try and carry on and all just wait for this to blow over is in my opinion ridiculous. If we had that mentality we would just sit at home all day waiting to die.

In terms of the title being tainted it hasn't been at all, we were so good this season that we had it wrapped up before all this kicked off anyway. At least this just brings about some sort of closure to the season.

In terms of whats best for battling the virus, join the national fight by doing what exactly? I think football has handled the return pretty well and certainly hasn't hindered any of the efforts to control the virus. Do the government know what they are doing? Should you follow their lead? Is this week not safe but next week ok because the government said so? Is England unsafe but Wales safe because we have a harder lockdown still? No, these things aren't arbitrary. I find myself making this point quite a lot but a lot of people have a hard time judging risk, I hear parents saying they won't send their kids to school becasue "it's not safe" yet these same parents will drive their kids to and from school 300 days a year in complete ignorance that driving a car is statistically one of the most dangerous things anyone can do in the UK.

Oh and last point, everything is about money... that's how man city are now champions league regulars and title winners,,, it's why the premier league can carry on whilst I can't play five a side yet etc etc etc.

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