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What I would like to see is... when we do eventually tie up the Prem Title and we do get some sort of Celebration and Mr & Mrs Henry and Tom are patting Klopp and the Players on their backs in front of the cameras... is for one of these so called partisan hacks to go rogue and shove a mic in John Henry's mush and ask him why he wouldn't give Klopp the funds to acquire "the" one player who Klopp has admired for so long, considering all the success Klopp has brought them?
I’d imagine it has something to do with this little global pandemic and a potentially horrendous recession. Or that we e had very little incoming since March yet our outgoings have barely changed. Maybe both? But it’s just a guess.
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Have you a link or screen cap of where they’ve taken money? I missed the part of the report that was titled ‘money for owners’? Or are you talking about the loan for the stand that was around £110m and is now around £80m which we all knew about?
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I am a tad disappointed about the Werner snub but at the same time, I think Klopp isn't stupid, I think we have bigger fish to fry in terms of transfers. We have lacked a creative midfielder that will change the dynamics of our team, so may be Klopp is looking at a bigger picture than we get Havertz for example, Klopp knows and we probably all know you can't just play the same system for 3 seasons and expect the same results as the team needs to adapt and become stronger. Signing Werner would of been nice but we have players that can play that role already, Firmino, Origi, Minamino and even Salah. I also think we have a chance at Mbappe so may be we are waiting for him instead.
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Have you a link or screen cap of where they’ve taken money? I missed the part of the report that was titled ‘money for owners’? Or are you talking about the loan for the stand that was around £110m and is now around £80m which we all knew about? In annual reports it's never written 'money for owners' dont know if you have ever read one or know how it is interpreted. Shareholders have 2 ways to finance a company, either by injecting capital or loan and 2 ways to take money out, either as dividends or loan repayment. Money can also be forked out as Managemnet fees and Non Exec directors' fees. FSC did not inject capital in a club that was in bad shape but did it as shareholders loan because it's easier to pay back loans, but its also called quasi equity and therefore quasi dividends. Go and check the annual report, you'll find out maybe
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I am a tad disappointed about the Werner snub but at the same time, I think Klopp isn't stupid, I think we have bigger fish to fry in terms of transfers. We have lacked a creative midfielder that will change the dynamics of our team, so may be Klopp is looking at a bigger picture than we get Havertz for example, Klopp knows and we probably all know you can't just play the same system for 3 seasons and expect the same results as the team needs to adapt and become stronger. Signing Werner would of been nice but we have players that can play that role already, Firmino, Origi, Minamino and even Salah. I also think we have a chance at Mbappe so may be we are waiting for him instead. Minamino doesnt play CF and Origi is not good enough, so it only really Firmino as Salah is usually played on the right, who will play there if he goes in the middle? Probably Eliott maybe despite his young age, but no money means no money
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By the looks of it going from certain journalists we won't be making any big signings this summer.
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Have you a link or screen cap of where they’ve taken money? I missed the part of the report that was titled ‘money for owners’? Or are you talking about the loan for the stand that was around £110m and is now around £80m which we all knew about? In annual reports it's never written 'money for owners' dont know if you have ever read one or know how it is interpreted. Shareholders have 2 ways to finance a company, either by injecting capital or loan and 2 ways to take money out, either as dividends or loan repayment. Money can also be forked out as Managemnet fees and Non Exec directors' fees. FSC did not inject capital in a club that was in bad shape but did it as shareholders loan because it's easier to pay back loans, but its also called quasi equity and therefore quasi dividends. Go and check the annual report, you'll find out maybe I read the annual report but as I have this little thing called a life, I didn’t have time to look that hard. That’s why I thought I’d ask someone as clever as you for a screen cap (surely not beyond your talents and you can show us all how clever you are). So was the money they ‘took’ from the club for the new stand or to line their pockets? Google is my friend and after a quickie in there I couldn’t see any reports that they’re lining their pockets. If they were the FSG OUT brigade would’ve put it all over we the internet.
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Have you a link or screen cap of where they’ve taken money? I missed the part of the report that was titled ‘money for owners’? Or are you talking about the loan for the stand that was around £110m and is now around £80m which we all knew about? In annual reports it's never written 'money for owners' dont know if you have ever read one or know how it is interpreted. Shareholders have 2 ways to finance a company, either by injecting capital or loan and 2 ways to take money out, either as dividends or loan repayment. Money can also be forked out as Managemnet fees and Non Exec directors' fees. FSC did not inject capital in a club that was in bad shape but did it as shareholders loan because it's easier to pay back loans, but its also called quasi equity and therefore quasi dividends. Go and check the annual report, you'll find out maybe I read the annual report but as I have this little thing called a life, I didn’t have time to look that hard. That’s why I thought I’d ask someone as clever as you for a screen cap (surely not beyond your talents and you can show us all how clever you are). So was the money they ‘took’ from the club for the new stand or to line their pockets? Google is my friend and after a quickie in there I couldn’t see any reports that they’re lining their pockets. If they were the FSG OUT brigade would’ve put it all over we the internet. Not sure what you mean by lining their pockets, we are beyond Robinhood times you know. They shouldn't say they didnt take a penny if they took 30m, it's same as dividends when it comes to quasi equity.
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They loaned us £110m for the new stand. What they’re taking is nothing more than repayments for that. It’s something we all knew was happening yet you’re making it out to be something it’s not to try and suit your agenda which is plain wrong.
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They loaned us £110m for the new stand. What they’re taking is nothing more than repayments for that. It’s something we all knew was happening yet you’re making it out to be something it’s not to try and suit your agenda which is plain wrong. Better if they didnt loan anything as you dont reimbursement capital projects so fast, did you know the repayments were going to be that fast, never heard? How long do you take to repay mortgages? Other owners are gifting their clubs, these ones cant even give long term loans, but of course you'll see this as normal, not sure why? I will just stop spending on the club as you, I might feel a bit better then
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