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The wrong owners..............
Who have helped us to get to 2 CL Finals (winning 1) and on the verge of winning our first PL in 30 years, also winning competitions like Club World Championship & Europa Super Cup, a Europa League final we lost, brought us probably the best manager in the world and having help assemble a top squad playing great football, improved the stadium, massively improved the business/commercial and helped make us self sufficient, helped clear huge debts that brought us to the brink of going out of business less than 10 years ago......... apart from that what have FSG ever done for us?
All that while keeping us within FFP and the club name not being tainted by claims of cheating/financial doping/sports washing.
I'm sure Hicks & Gillett were richer than FSG, if you prefer we go back to them as owners? No, I would have preferred Abramovic or Sheik Mansoor like owners who dont need to be lucky to get Klopp to win titles, they've won much more and without Klopp, even before Pep for City. FSG were not lucky to get Klopp, they identified & hired him (no doubt with help from people who knew football better), allot of top clubs in the world were after Klopp and did not get him, so whatever FSG did/said worked to recruit him. I am not going over the ownership argument again, we exhausted that on another thread and we will not agree, suffice to say I prefer us to be ran as a business rather than a billionaires play thing involved in financial doping & sports washing.
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while we have been very successful under the current owners,i would put them as the main factor for our success.They hit the jackpot when they hired Klopp to be the manager.Klopp has worked miracles on a tight budget.we are not a cash rich club,we are yet to have the spending power of our rivals and if we didnt have Klopp in charge we might be in a spot of bother.
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The wrong owners..............
Who have helped us to get to 2 CL Finals (winning 1) and on the verge of winning our first PL in 30 years, also winning competitions like Club World Championship & Europa Super Cup, a Europa League final we lost, brought us probably the best manager in the world and having help assemble a top squad playing great football, improved the stadium, massively improved the business/commercial and helped make us self sufficient, helped clear huge debts that brought us to the brink of going out of business less than 10 years ago......... apart from that what have FSG ever done for us?
All that while keeping us within FFP and the club name not being tainted by claims of cheating/financial doping/sports washing.
I'm sure Hicks & Gillett were richer than FSG, if you prefer we go back to them as owners? No, I would have preferred Abramovic or Sheik Mansoor like owners who dont need to be lucky to get Klopp to win titles, they've won much more and without Klopp, even before Pep for City. FSG were not lucky to get Klopp, they identified & hired him (no doubt with help from people who knew football better), allot of top clubs in the world were after Klopp and did not get him, so whatever FSG did/said worked to recruit him. I am not going over the ownership argument again, we exhausted that on another thread and we will not agree, suffice to say I prefer us to be ran as a business rather than a billionaires play thing involved in financial doping & sports washing. So why did it take them 5 years or so to get Klopp if he was identified as the chosen one? They went by trial and error and were lucky to hit the jackpot as they guy decided to cut short his sabbatical.
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Where are those who said Klopp will get whichever player he wants, while I said we wont buy if we dont sell? Oooooooooh well done you for being ‘right’. Maybe a global pandemic got in the way?
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The wrong owners..............
Who have helped us to get to 2 CL Finals (winning 1) and on the verge of winning our first PL in 30 years, also winning competitions like Club World Championship & Europa Super Cup, a Europa League final we lost, brought us probably the best manager in the world and having help assemble a top squad playing great football, improved the stadium, massively improved the business/commercial and helped make us self sufficient, helped clear huge debts that brought us to the brink of going out of business less than 10 years ago......... apart from that what have FSG ever done for us?
All that while keeping us within FFP and the club name not being tainted by claims of cheating/financial doping/sports washing.
I'm sure Hicks & Gillett were richer than FSG, if you prefer we go back to them as owners? No, I would have preferred Abramovic or Sheik Mansoor like owners who dont need to be lucky to get Klopp to win titles, they've won much more and without Klopp, even before Pep for City. FSG were not lucky to get Klopp, they identified & hired him (no doubt with help from people who knew football better), allot of top clubs in the world were after Klopp and did not get him, so whatever FSG did/said worked to recruit him. I am not going over the ownership argument again, we exhausted that on another thread and we will not agree, suffice to say I prefer us to be ran as a business rather than a billionaires play thing involved in financial doping & sports washing. Good to see the lazy ‘we were lucky to get Klopp’ argument out again. I had this argument in another thread the other week and he couldn’t get it then so won’t now.
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Where are those who said Klopp will get whichever player he wants, while I said we wont buy if we dont sell? Oooooooooh well done you for being ‘right’. Maybe a global pandemic got in the way? Thank you and nope, there were no pandemics in the last 2 windows, remember?
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Where are those who said Klopp will get whichever player he wants, while I said we wont buy if we dont sell? Oooooooooh well done you for being ‘right’. Maybe a global pandemic got in the way? Thank you and nope, there were no pandemics in the last 2 windows, remember? And look where those windows got us. We’re you ‘right’ about that too?
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Where are those who said Klopp will get whichever player he wants, while I said we wont buy if we dont sell? Oooooooooh well done you for being ‘right’. Maybe a global pandemic got in the way? Thank you and nope, there were no pandemics in the last 2 windows, remember? And look where those windows got us. We’re you ‘right’ about that too? So we should never buy players anymore then, right? Dont tell me Klopp knows best because he wanted Werner, even those media close to FSG said so, like Liverpool Echo
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while we have been very successful under the current owners,i would put them as the main factor for our success.They hit the jackpot when they hired Klopp to be the manager.Klopp has worked miracles on a tight budget.we are not a cash rich club,we are yet to have the spending power of our rivals and if we didnt have Klopp in charge we might be in a spot of bother. I agree with you there, we all thought Klopp was the best option and would be good, but I do not think any of us expected the success and style of football we have played based on the team he inherited, so he has performed much better than anyone's expectations. FSG have made difficult decisions, they got rid of Kenny after winning our first trophy (League Cup) in a while and getting to the FA Cup final, they also sacked Rodgers after one of our best seasons in 25 years, so they did make difficult decisions when allot of owners might not have acted, that then enabled them to bring in Klopp.
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No, I would have preferred Abramovic or Sheik Mansoor like owners who dont need to be lucky to get Klopp to win titles, they've won much more and without Klopp, even before Pep for City.
FSG were not lucky to get Klopp, they identified & hired him (no doubt with help from people who knew football better), allot of top clubs in the world were after Klopp and did not get him, so whatever FSG did/said worked to recruit him. I am not going over the ownership argument again, we exhausted that on another thread and we will not agree, suffice to say I prefer us to be ran as a business rather than a billionaires play thing involved in financial doping & sports washing. So why did it take them 5 years or so to get Klopp if he was identified as the chosen one? They went by trial and error and were lucky to hit the jackpot as they guy decided to cut short his sabbatical. Klopp was in another job and being very successful at it, as we know Klopp is very loyal and would not walk away from that, I don't know if they tried to get him before hiring Kenny on Rodgers. FSG sacked managers they could easily have kept based on recent performances (previous years success), so they took those decisions, which enabled them to recruit Klopp, that was not luck. You can argue that FSG were lucky Klopp turned out to be so good and achieve so much on a limited budget compared to most of his rivals.
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