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Was looking at the latest annual report for year ending May 2019 and the club has reimbursed the parent company about 20m as I suspected, 30m over 2 years. That was probably the loan given for the extension of the stand. Those who were worried about FFP, infrastructure expenses are not included in the costs when FFP is calculated, that is, if an owner wants to finance a club for infrastructure improvement, it can do so without constraints.

I think we’re still in for Werner. Edwards just using the current situation to our advantage and looking to get a reduced fee. Smart. I think there is or will be talks of us linked to other players who play in a similiar position that will come out, not of any real substance, but to try and force Leipzig to sell at a reduced price. They need the funds more than we need the player.

Reading all the recent reports, Werner has his heart set on us which is a bonus for us in that we can and are playing hardball as to the transfer fee.

Liverpool's current Werner transfer tactics:

Klopp interactions with Werner prior to recent reports, via video teleconferencing / telephone calls building up Werner's enthusiasm to play for us. It goes a long way that both are German and culturally the same, so discussions are fluent and rapport is built.

Liverpool PR Team only discuss the Werner interest from the club to Partisan media. Using current pandemic and financial situations for every club to downplay our interest.

Reports in the media are being amped up by both clubs partisan media...Leipzig's bandying several big clubs interest in Werner...Liverpool's using that by suggesting those big clubs already know Werner has his heart set on playing for Liverpool only.

Next step is for Werner to hand in a transfer request to Leipzig, telling Leipzig he only wants to play for Liverpool.

Of course we’re still in for him. It’s all part of the transfer negotiation dance. Anyone who thinks otherwise is quite frankly stupid. Will it work and he signs? Maybe, maybe not. But we’ll be in until the end.

I think that unless we sell or get a huge bargain because unlikely, we wont buy. RB Leipzig dont need to sell anyway.

I think it will ultimately come down to how much Werner wants to leave RB and how much he wants to join Liverpool.

As you say, RB do not need to sell financially, as they are backed by Red Bull, but they are not stupid, they know Werner wants to leave, that's why they negotiated a new deal last summer and the release clause was added, to protect his value and give him a fair way to leave, but those release prices were all set before the current Virus situation.

The RB model is to develop raw young players and sell them on, so they will want to show that, they do not want to be holding players to ransom against their will, as they will want to recruit the next Werner, Keita or Mane, they need to able to show that to the next generation of signing.

We are negotiating, I expect we will come to a compromise deal, but if we do not, maybe we will get him in January or next summer, like we did with VvD, we know when Klopp identifies the player he wants, he usually waits for them and does not go for 'choice B'.

RB is in a close fight for CL places with 3 other teams. if they fail to make top4, Werner will surely want to leave. hopefully reports of him only interested in us are true.

I think he wants to leave, preferably to us, however, it will depend on who triggers his exit clause, if any team does it, RB Leipzig will have to allow that club to talk to him.

In todays market I don't think we will be overly interested in paying as much as the exit clause price.

The risk now is that Manure or Chelski steps in and snatches him in front of us.

I don't really follow that. They are just as likely to not be able to afford / be willing to pay that amount in these times.

Chelsea don't need a striker really. They have a collection of attacking players and have Ziyech coming in who they signed in Jan.

Man United have to get Sanchez off their payroll and have got Ighalo until Jan now. Again they have lots of options. Just that loads of them are not at the top level consistently. They are also going to either hold on to Pogba and his wages or let him go cheap. This was someone they valued at £150m last season when he was banging in all those penalties.