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So Mr Limelight "Karius" has recently been whining about how hard done by he has been treated by LFC. He doesn't want his current stint at Besiktas to end because they can't afford (don't want to pay what LFC are asking) to acquire his services permanently and also the fact nobody else is interested in him.

Recently Karius was mooted to have said to Besiktas that he would get LFC to allow him to leave on a FREE even though he is still contracted to LFC until 2021.

Now this...

“Malice and insult, often below the belt” – Liverpool player wanted to handle situation ‘more aggressively’

Liverpool won the Champions League last season after defeating Tottenham Hotspur in the final.

The Reds came close to lifting the trophy a year before, but they suffered a 3-1 defeat at the hands of Real Madrid in the final May 2018.

Sergio Ramos collided with Karius at the start of the second half in Kiev and, minutes later, an error from the 26-year-old saw Karim Benzema put the Spanish capital club in front. The keeper was also at fault for Real Madrid’s third goal.

Just days after the final in Kiev, a specialist at Boston and Massachusetts General Hospital confirmed the goalkeeper’s performance could have been impacted after suffering a concussion during the game against Real Madrid.

After the final, Karius was subjected to online abuse, and speaking to SportBild, the keeper admitted he should have dealt the situation in a different manner.

“Believe me, I’ve learned a lot from that! In retrospect, I should have dealt with it more aggressively in public,” he said.

“I had a concussion after a blow from Sergio Ramos, which restricted my spatial vision. This was unequivocally ascertained in a detailed study by one of the world’s leading brain specialists.

“At first, I was happy to know what was going on in this game. I didn’t want to make it public myself. When the result was released, there was a lot of malice and insult, often well below the belt. I never used it as an excuse. But when people make fun of someone who has badly injured their head, I have no understanding.”

Karius even suggested that his display in the Champions League final defeat has erased his previous good performances.

“When I was just 24, I was in the Champions League final. Otherwise only Manuel Neuer and Marc-André ter Stegen were among the active German goalkeepers in the final,” Karius explained.

“But my share of it with all my shows and good performances before was suddenly no longer present. The reactions were over the top and disrespectful. Above all that it is drawn out in this way. Errors are measured with different, even abnormal, dimensions and are not assessed fairly.

“We players face extreme hostility on the internet. If you read every message, you wouldn’t be able to sleep for two days. It’s insane what people take out under the guise of anonymity, badly insulting others, discriminating against them and then becoming racist.

“You can’t blame fans if they whistle a player. You pay admission [fee] and have the right to be dissatisfied. A professional has to endure that. If there are personal insults or death threats, the line is then crossed.

“There were some of them [death threats]. But I can’t take that seriously. These are people who write anonymously and don’t even show their faces in their profiles.”

Karius has also thanked his partner Sophia Thomalla for her support.

“She is an extremely strong woman, never afraid to speak her mind. It’s nice when you have someone you can rely on. She travels a lot, but we see each other often. No matter where we are, we always know that one person supports the other one hundred percent,” he added.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/malice-and-ins...e-aggressively/

So if all else fails highlight a few numbskull fan/s that EVERY club has, to make a return impossible!

Oh! I think we all remember the escalated need from LFC to look for an excuse for Karius' antics on that fateful night v Real Madrid. The fact FSG are huge contributors to the particular hospital that carried out tests on Karius, that they felt the need to fly Butter Fingers from one coast to the opposite coast of America to get a highly dubious vindication!

And Karius wasn't exactly UNprone to mistakes prior to this Final as he is now suggesting he deserved better due to his prior form?

He was abit unlucky in the final and maybe our medics could have done more, but he did not help himself as he did not appear to make an issue of the clash with Ramos.

This is all just posturing for a deal, I cannot see him returning, his bridges are burnt at Liverpool with most fans, he wasn't a big buy money wise at just under £5 million, we have been linked with a few younger keepers earlier in the season, so I can see us letting him leave cheap and bringing someone younger in and let Adrian leave.

Most of the times, people may not realize they have a concussion and that's why it makes concussion so dangerous.

He was a young goalkeeper in the final. His head being hit and he felt okay at the beginning and that's why he continued to play on.


It is very unfortunate for him, he had some heroic saves during the season. He would be treated much better if that errors were not occurred in the final. (see Adrian when played against Alt Mad)


It is okay for us to replace him when we found a better alternative (which also costs a lot more). But this is completely cross-the-line for some fans to insult him or place some death threats to him.

Totally agree about crossing the line with insults and death threats, I didn't realise there had been death threats, he's fair game to have a pop at him over ability, but that's it.

Getting Alisson has shown us what a world class GK will give you, he settles the defense and gives confidence, something Karius and Mignolet would never do, we always knew there was a rick in them, it was just a matter of time.

I blame our medics for the final injury, they should have took a good look at him after the head injury, if he would have gone down, the ref would have had to give them a decent amount of time to check/work on him being a GK.

I feel that game was feinted against us, with Ramos dirty tricks causing Salah's injury, in a way i'm glad Karius it went the way it did as it forced Klopp's hand to go big on a World Class keeper like Alisson, if Karius would have had a decent game and we lost anyways, he might still be our number 1 today, if that was the case, we wouldn;'t be 25 points cleartoday.

Yeah I tend to agree ecnirp, without that fiasco in the final we'd more than likely be struggling with defence issues. Instead we're topping the league with a 25 points lead, over the strongest and most expensively assembled side the league has ever seen. Magical!