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I'm saying bad in terms of the resources and money which the owners of Man City provide to Pep.

Its remarkable they are so far behind and losing (at the moment) to Man City.

Is it bad luck?
Has Klopp destroyed Pep to the extent that Pep would prefer to be sacked, pocket millions and scarper to an easier league maybe France with PSG where he can keep his unearned legacy as being a world class manager alive.

Are the players too well paid now and complacent?

either way it mystifies me that out competition is not really competition at all.

I blame Achterberg.

Aguero still looks good

You can question all you like. You have to accept that as it stands we are all watching the best Liverpool side in the history of the PL.
We are at the moment the best team in the world by some distance.

We are doing everything that City did 2 years ago when they got 100 points. Our target must be to eclipse that and successfully defend the CL.

Of course there is competition. But what you are seeing with us is an extremely high level of teamwork, effort and discipline. Time after time it gets rewarded.

I don't understand what you are saying about losing to Man City.

Fantastic sly dig at the two best managers in the world.

I say this because WW is saying that we have no competition so therefore implying everyone else must be poor. So when we win this thing if not due to VAR will it be due to everyone else being poor?

And saying Pep has an unearned legacy as a world class manager is a joke. So therefore if Klopp wins the title he hasn't exactly beaten much?

Is this what you are saying Welshie? Because from where I am this looks like the sort of thing that someone who supports our most bitter rivals would imply.

I will put this as simply as I can. We are the best team in the world. And simply getting better and better. Why hit the top and stop to wait for others to catch up?

Being as good as we are is down to hard work. Why should we be worried about how good or bad everyone else is?

It's mainly because of their defence after losing Laporte as they did not replace Kompany. They wanted Maguire but United outbid them as they had to be very cautious with spending after being investigated

It will be interesting to see how this season pans out.

Is Pep up for re-building the Man City team next season? with David Silva already going and Aguero (contract until 2021) and Fernandinho (contract until end of this season) this is a team with players getting on in age. Pep's Wife and Daughter have also gone back to Spain which is a huge pointer to him leaving.

I believe Citeh have already approached Pochettino for next season and that is why United are sticking with Ole.

I agree, they are all a year older as well, players like Fernandinho, Walker & Aguro (he's still great), losing Laporte was massive blow, especially with no Kompany to fill in, Cancelo has looked that great for £60 million, so they are vulnerable in defense.

Sane was also a big loss, he rescued lots of points for them last season by coming off the bench and turning games, they have missed him, looks like he will be off to Bayern also.

Also, teams have seen City are defensively vulnerable, so they are having a go at them, last season they looked beaten before kicking off, like they do when they are playing us this season!

It seems it's the 3 year (ish) cycle rule. It's very difficult for any team to perform at peak level for more than 2-3 seasons - esp teams that play high intensity, high octane football. Some players get older/slower; some lose the hunger; some stop listening to the manager... it's just natural.

It will happen to us after this season I suspect. If we win the league, most players will have won the CL and the Title. How many will want to try that again and again? Esp the overseas players... I suspect quite a few will want the next challenege - in Spain or Italy.

The club may also decide to cash in on Mane or Salah in order to refresh the team and also because of the change to the timing of African Nations Cup.

So enjoy every moment of this season whilst it lasts.

There is so much in what you say which is so true Mighty. But above all of that I think the hunger of the fans will keep it stoked up and burning for a long time.

The inevitable happens as players get older so you have to keep the plans fluid for incoming players. We only seem to buy players of a certain age because who wants to lose them at 27/28 for nothing having given them pots of money since 20/21.

Losing Suarez, Coutinho to the money clubs and Gerrard, Carragher to retirement over a 5 year period was always going to be difficult but what a transformation we have seen. I am not so sure City will find that same resolve in the period where they lose Silva, Kompany, Fernandinho and possibly Aguero in the same time span.

I agree that we may lose Salah or Mane but we will pick up another player for Klopp to improve and take us to yet another level. Can you just imagine him getting Mbappe and making him better?