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I voted remain and don’t want a no deal. But I’m not going to jump on the all is doom with a no deal bandwagon.

Ultimately we voted to leave as a whole and if that means with a no deal then so be it.


It's going to be absolutely brilliant for N. Ireland, the border and the Good Friday Agreement.

But sure, so be it.



I won’t pretend to know why as I know nothing of the troubles there (unlike stan grin). So this is a genuine question. Why? Surely it doesn’t have to mean the end of the peace out there does it?


seeing how it rips up the peace treaty..i would say good chance yeah..won't happen tho..boris can't get anything passed


Why does it rip it up? Explain so I can understand.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
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I voted remain and don’t want a no deal. But I’m not going to jump on the all is doom with a no deal bandwagon.

Ultimately we voted to leave as a whole and if that means with a no deal then so be it.


It's going to be absolutely brilliant for N. Ireland, the border and the Good Friday Agreement.

But sure, so be it.



I won’t pretend to know why as I know nothing of the troubles there (unlike stan grin). So this is a genuine question. Why? Surely it doesn’t have to mean the end of the peace out there does it?


The troubles in N. Ireland lasted 30 years and cost over 3,500 lives. The beauty of the Good Friday Agreement was that there was no winners or losers. Both sides compromised and as a result both sides were able to sell it to the hardliners.

Crucial to that was the removal of the border checkpoints and the british army from the streets. This has led to a return to normality.
We can now travel up and down and across the country freely without hindrance.

However it is impossible for britain to deliver bojo's version of brexit without breaching not only the Good Friday Agreement but also the Withdrawal Agreement. This was in an Irish newspaper today.

"Section 10(2)(b) of the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018 explicitly commits the UK not to “create or facilitate border arrangements between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland after exit day which feature physical infrastructure, including border posts, or checks and controls, that did not exist before exit day and are not in accordance with an agreement between the United Kingdom and the EU”.

This could not be clearer: what is ruled out is not just posts on the border but any infrastructure, any checks, and any controls that do not currently exist.

This, remember, is not just an Irish or EU demand. It has been the official British line all throughout this process. The whole backstop problem arises, not as some kind of dastardly Irish or European plot, but because Britain just can’t live up to this commitment if Northern Ireland leaves either the single market or the customs union".

Bojo proposed deal, will in effect be tearing up the Good Friday Agreement and what was agreed in the Withdrawal Agreement. Also his ridiculous idea of giving the DUP a veto over future decisions relating to N. Ireland would be laughable if it wasn't so dangerous. That's the same DUP that was the only party in N. Ireland to oppose the Good Friday Agreement.

Does any of the above strike you of the actions of an honest broker which is meant to be the role of the british (and irish) governments in relation to the GFA?

The peace process will be over simply because britain has decided to completely ignore its commitments to it.

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its nothing about me, its about the FACT that people who fund boris and the brexit campaign are betting huge amounts of money on your country falling apart ..its just a fact, and in my opinion exposes the nature of brexit. Why don't you have an opinion or fear of this? maddness

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its nothing about me, its about the FACT that people who fund boris and the brexit campaign are betting huge amounts of money on your country falling apart ..its just a fact, and in my opinion exposes the nature of brexit. Why don't you have an opinion or fear of this? maddness


Speculators love market volatility and I am pretty sure they are shorting on the brexit deal or not. But so what ? They do this 24x7 x365 what's new here ? We have stock markets and commodity markets have you only just found this out ? And the only place right now falling apart is the EU economy even Germany which is tipping into recession the ECB is also printing money at record levels and has negative interest rates meaning you pay to hold money.


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its nothing about me, its about the FACT that people who fund boris and the brexit campaign are betting huge amounts of money on your country falling apart ..its just a fact, and in my opinion exposes the nature of brexit. Why don't you have an opinion or fear of this? maddness


Speculators love market volatility and I am pretty sure they are shorting on the brexit deal or not. But so what ? They do this 24x7 x365 what's new here ? We have stock markets and commodity markets have you only just found this out ? And the only place right now falling apart is the EU economy even Germany which is tipping into recession the ECB is also printing money at record levels and has negative interest rates meaning you pay to hold money.


No they ain't speculators they are actively effecting the markets to make a killing at your misfortune.. u happy with that conflict of interest then good for you.. but people that bet that much money tend to be right, especially when they are also pushing the economy down.

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Originally Posted By EMP
its nothing about me, its about the FACT that people who fund boris and the brexit campaign are betting huge amounts of money on your country falling apart ..its just a fact, and in my opinion exposes the nature of brexit. Why don't you have an opinion or fear of this? maddness


So these people have only just started doing this have they? Get a grip. These sorts of people are doing this day in day out regardless of brexit. If you take the far left turd out of your eyes you’d see that.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
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its nothing about me, its about the FACT that people who fund boris and the brexit campaign are betting huge amounts of money on your country falling apart ..its just a fact, and in my opinion exposes the nature of brexit. Why don't you have an opinion or fear of this? maddness


So these people have only just started doing this have they? Get a grip. These sorts of people are doing this day in day out regardless of brexit. If you take the far left turd out of your eyes you’d see that.


Thats not an answer, yes people speculate on downturns all the time(farage celebrating the pound drop comes to mind).. I am talking about Brexit backers with a conflict of interest cause they are backing at your economy falling and actively promoting a cause of action that they believe will make your economy fall...so again nothing to do with me or how long this has been going on..address the actual issue.. are u happy with brexiters and boris being funded by people that want to see ur economy collapse ..stop dodging

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actually u have answered..u don't care

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Oh so now people who backed brexit are continuing to do what they did. Wow I’m shocked! I hate them. Hate them all! How dare they? I best convert to the far left. There’s nothing else for it.

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Wow! People driving the uk to ruin for their own economic benefit and you think its a joke..shocking.

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