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Claim Liverpool to lose €25m as former star heads out on loan

Earlier today we brought you a report that stated Liverpool were set to miss out on money owed to them as part of Philippe Coutinho’s move to Bayern Munich.

The Brazilian is set to leave Barcelona in the coming days, with the Catalan giants having agreed to a deal that will see him head out on loan.

Sport covered the impending move and explained that Liverpool were set to miss out on ‘variables’ that were part of his move to the Nou Camp.

There was no explanation of what those variables were, just that Barcelona were saving themselves money by not having to pay them.

Sport have now updated the story and not only explained what those variables are but how much Liverpool will end up missing out on as a result of his move to Bayern.

They say that the deal that took Coutinho to Barcelona saw them pay €120m upfront with €40m in add-ons. They were due to get €5m once Coutinho played 25 games and then a further €20m for 100 games.

There was also €10m coming their way if Barca qualified for the Champions League twice and then a further €5m if they won it while he was at the club.

Therefore, Barca have paid €135m to date for Coutinho, €120m upfront as well as €15m after him playing 25 games and their Champions League qualifications.

They’ll avoid paying a further €25m, though, as Coutinho won’t reach 100 games and he hasn’t won the Champions League with them either, something Barcelona are probably quite pleased about, and Liverpool will be cursing their luck over.

They probably thought they were onto a long-term winner with the Coutinho deal and the variables they put in shows they, like the rest of us, were more than confident of him being a success at the Camp Nou. Instead, according to Sport, they’re now set to miss out on €25m.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/liverpool-lose-e25m-former-star-heads-loan/

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Sounds like bad economics by the suits, surely as soon as any intimation that Barcelona were going to loan Coutinho out, they should have stepped in and renegotiated the original deal by taking him back on loan to stop this from happening.

Was there any part of the original deal that ensured us a percentage of any sell on deal?

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Hmmm... you are aware that Sportwitness is a non-credible and fairly worthless rumour site aren't you? In fact, very few sites are following suit on this... the only big one I could find was the Daily Mail... and that speaks for itself. You might want to look for more credible sources to bolster your incessant criticism of our club... thanks.

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Originally Posted By The Kop Prophet
Hmmm... you are aware that Sportwitness is a non-credible and fairly worthless rumour site aren't you? In fact, very few sites are following suit on this... the only big one I could find was the Daily Mail... and that speaks for itself. You might want to look for more credible sources to bolster your incessant criticism of our club... thanks.


I am sure we will lose on the add ons as he is going on loan after a quarter off his contract, completely normal. The article below was published when he was sold, do the maths, it might not be the exact figures quoted above, but we will lose

https://www.theguardian.com/football/201...-deal-liverpool

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yeah and that's why add-ons have rather tough conditions attached.
I guess the bulk will be on him helping Barca win the CL. even if he stayed with them, that's not a certainty too.

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To be fair 135m is a decent chunk of change for Phil. I wouldn't call it bad economics.

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We got a good bit money for him. Or transfers both buying and selling under FSG over the last probably 4 years have been the best in the league/Europe.

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How can the club lose 25million it never had?

and to be frank even if we had it, it wouldn't have been spent on new players anyway, no doubt we will sell Lovren for 14million and Shaqiri before this time next year for 30million plus. So don't worry about poor FSG losing small change.

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Hopefully when FSG sell Salah or Mane next season so we can actually enter the transfer window in a buying capacity, they learn that straight cash is King and not accept conditions of planets aligning for the bulk of a sell on fee.

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Originally Posted By Pickles
Hopefully when FSG sell Salah or Mane next season so we can actually enter the transfer window in a buying capacity, they learn that straight cash is King and not accept conditions of planets aligning for the bulk of a sell on fee.



The huge majority of deals are done with add ons

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