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Originally Posted By van Gogh
I don't think we necessarily will be as good as last year.

We might need a season to grow into a steady top 4 team.


Then if we see significant addressing of our weaknesses next summer, we might take the next step and become a more regular threat to City.

But that is not to say we won't get any silverware this season. I think/hope we can get at least a cup to show - FA Cup or the League Cup maybe. Plus make it into top 4 in the league of course.

That would be a good year to build further on for the future imo.


We are a steady top 4 team. We've been in the Champions league places every full year under Klopp, and seriously challenging in Europe every year.

Any trophy would be a success, but I wouldn't be surprised if we won the league simply because City drop off a bit. It's difficult to sustain that hunger, and even fro United under Ferguson it was rare to win it 3 years in a row.

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Originally Posted By Pickles
I am hearing that Pep is going to do another Mascherano and move Fernandinho to CB now that they have Rodders. With Kompany's influence at the back now gone Pep is hoping to reinvent Fernandinho's influence from Def midfield to the CB position.
Should be interesting to see if it works out, like it did for him with Mascherano at Barcelona. Although I feel a lot of clubs will then target City aerially because Fernandinho is on the small side at 5' 8" ?


At Barca, the opponents were hardly getting the ball in Barca's penalty box to target Mascerano, City are just playing like Barca now but without Messi.

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Originally Posted By redordead13
Originally Posted By van Gogh
I don't think we necessarily will be as good as last year.

We might need a season to grow into a steady top 4 team.


Then if we see significant addressing of our weaknesses next summer, we might take the next step and become a more regular threat to City.

But that is not to say we won't get any silverware this season. I think/hope we can get at least a cup to show - FA Cup or the League Cup maybe. Plus make it into top 4 in the league of course.

That would be a good year to build further on for the future imo.


We are a steady top 4 team. We've been in the Champions league places every full year under Klopp, and seriously challenging in Europe every year.

Any trophy would be a success, but I wouldn't be surprised if we won the league simply because City drop off a bit. It's difficult to sustain that hunger, and even fro United under Ferguson it was rare to win it 3 years in a row.


What make you say City drop off a bit? I mean they had 14 straight wins to win the league last season. Since then they only played pre season games without their full team

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Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By redordead13
Originally Posted By van Gogh
I don't think we necessarily will be as good as last year.

We might need a season to grow into a steady top 4 team.


Then if we see significant addressing of our weaknesses next summer, we might take the next step and become a more regular threat to City.

But that is not to say we won't get any silverware this season. I think/hope we can get at least a cup to show - FA Cup or the League Cup maybe. Plus make it into top 4 in the league of course.

That would be a good year to build further on for the future imo.


We are a steady top 4 team. We've been in the Champions league places every full year under Klopp, and seriously challenging in Europe every year.

Any trophy would be a success, but I wouldn't be surprised if we won the league simply because City drop off a bit. It's difficult to sustain that hunger, and even for United under Ferguson it was rare to win it 3 years in a row.


What make you say City drop off a bit? I mean they had 14 straight wins to win the league last season. Since then they only played pre season games without their full team


They had slightly fewer points this past season than the year before. Winning the league three years on the trot is difficult. It's hard to maintain that fanatical hunger for the same prize.

Pep can't really better than he has, domestically, but he hasn't won the Champions league with City. If Pep win's the champions league, he can probably cement his place as the most successful manager who ever lived, and the Messi asterisk goes away.

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Originally Posted By redordead13
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds
Originally Posted By redordead13
Originally Posted By van Gogh
I don't think we necessarily will be as good as last year.

We might need a season to grow into a steady top 4 team.


Then if we see significant addressing of our weaknesses next summer, we might take the next step and become a more regular threat to City.

But that is not to say we won't get any silverware this season. I think/hope we can get at least a cup to show - FA Cup or the League Cup maybe. Plus make it into top 4 in the league of course.

That would be a good year to build further on for the future imo.


We are a steady top 4 team. We've been in the Champions league places every full year under Klopp, and seriously challenging in Europe every year.

Any trophy would be a success, but I wouldn't be surprised if we won the league simply because City drop off a bit. It's difficult to sustain that hunger, and even for United under Ferguson it was rare to win it 3 years in a row.


What make you say City drop off a bit? I mean they had 14 straight wins to win the league last season. Since then they only played pre season games without their full team


They had slightly fewer points this past season than the year before. Winning the league three years on the trot is difficult. It's hard to maintain that fanatical hunger for the same prize.

Pep can't really better than he has, domestically, but he hasn't won the Champions league with City. If Pep win's the champions league, he can probably cement his place as the most successful manager who ever lived, and the Messi asterisk goes away.


He has dominated every league he has been to, so would be surprised to see him reduce the pressure, next year he will go for 4 trophies, he came close last season. That 14 win streak would have put a lot of confidence in their team.

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I think people are deluding themselves if they think city are going to drop of next season. They have so much competition in that squad. If they drop off it will be minimal.

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Originally Posted By EnergisedReds

He has dominated every league he has been to, so would be surprised to see him reduce the pressure, next year he will go for 4 trophies, he came close last season. That 14 win streak would have put a lot of confidence in their team.


Ok, but they lost more games than we did. There wasn't a lot between them and us. If Kompany gets the red card he deserved and isn't eligible to score that worldie, it might have ended differently. It's a subjective opinion, but I think we'll be a tad hungrier after the near miss, much like we were after the loss to Real Madrid.

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Originally Posted By paul66
I think people are deluding themselves if they think city are going to drop of next season. They have so much competition in that squad. If they drop off it will be minimal.


It depends on what they mean by dropping off. If it’s thinking they’ll get 80 points then maybe you’re right. But they may drop a few more points than the last few years and it’s not deluded to think that. Don’t forget they lost more games than us last season. For me it depends on what they concentrate on.

Do they want the champions league more? They’ve also lost the big influence of Company and I don’t think that should be under estimated regardless of how long he was injured for last term.

But we all know the depth they have so even with the above they could still run away with it. But we also know how good we are so there’s no reason to think we can’t repeat what we did last year either.

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Originally Posted By redordead13
Originally Posted By EnergisedReds

He has dominated every league he has been to, so would be surprised to see him reduce the pressure, next year he will go for 4 trophies, he came close last season. That 14 win streak would have put a lot of confidence in their team.


Ok, but they lost more games than we did. There wasn't a lot between them and us. If Kompany gets the red card he deserved and isn't eligible to score that worldie, it might have ended differently. It's a subjective opinion, but I think we'll be a tad hungrier after the near miss, much like we were after the loss to Real Madrid.


But what if Mahrez scores the penalty, or Lloris doesn't do his blunder against us etc. I mean, we cannot look at specific incidents and decide, what is true is that City dominated games more than us, have a bigger goal difference in addition to the 1 point gap, so they have won their games more easily despite losing more. I think we all agree that they have a better squad as well.

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