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lucas is not the same type of player as alonso so pointless to compare the two

as for his performances it is unfair to expect him to jump in and shine - these days fringe players get no reserve team action to keep them sharp so spend most of their time watching rather than playing! i dont understand why the likes of babel aren't in the reserves when they havent had a game for the first team - keep em match sharp-ish

Lucas has qualities but still less strength for PL (can see often he lost tackle to opponents).
In PL, the games are quick and hard than other leagues, so why strength is very important.

To get more strength, you need more muscles which need times to build, not couple weeks but months or year.
The great thing is he knew the problem and solve it direct to the point.

I believe he will be our big asset for coming years and capable to replace Gerrard when Gerrard older and slower (truth of life).

Emp, calling some one else mentally deluded! Ha ha, pot calling the kettle black if I ever saw it. He is merely making the point that he is young and has alot of years ahead of him. He's not suggesting that he will replace Gerrard next season.

I have been quite critical of Lucas but I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. See how he goes in the first half of the season and part of the run in and then I think we can judge him. He has to be good to be captain of the under 20 Brazil team.

you are clearly deluded emp - doyle is an average player end of

lucas is potentially a quality player - and there in lies the difference, lucas has the potential to become a top player - doyle will never be one

such a legend even reading fans arent convinced by him!!

Oh FFS Emp get of it! Any excuse to slam Rafa. Seriously if the club is going that bad go and "support" some other team and leave us in peace.

Emp you are far from an LFC fan....Lucas obviously has talent to be Captain of the Brazil U20 team. How many players have performed brilliantly in their first year of playing in the prem? not many and based on your logic all of them would have been sold if it was performance based. Lucas needs a regular run although he hasn't set the world alight he has noted his weakness and is working on strengthening it...literally!! Give the guy a break. It sounds like if it were up to you, the entire squad would be changed bar a few.
As for your dig at Kuyt, he was our third highest goal scorer and has many many assist too! He works his ar$e off for the benefit of the team and creates turnovers more than anyone in the team....probably one of the first 4 on the team sheet!

it's not about supporting blindly Emp but about giving a youngster, who the LFC manager & staff have a lot of faith in, time to prove his worth. Just as other top managers do... case in point is funguscum and gaylord... if the mancs had got rid of him after his first two AWFUL seasons, we would have won the league this season and not them!!!
That's not to say all players make it, nor am I saying that Lucas can be as good as the prancing portuguese ponce, but unless managers are willing to put faith in their instincts then they'll never going to know... plus you have to remember that these guys see each other in training day to day...

rush took years to consistently perform to a high standard, sammy lee was another one who struggled as a youngster, look at the way carra struggled in his early years - very few players jump into the first team and perform to the highest quality immediately

lucas has not just had very few chances to show what he can do but he has mainly played out of position as a holding midfielder - but he will be all the better for the experience gained - just give the lad time to get used to his surroundings etc then its time to judge him not now

I bet Doyle took more than one season in the 5th division in Ireland to get better.