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We still have a transfer committee, if you believe Klopp is in sole charge of transfers you are mistaken. No manager is solely in charge of transfers. But it doesn’t work like with Rodgers and again, if you think it does, you’re just wrong. The last few seasons have shown that Klopp will buy who he wants and when he wants. FSG have backed him. You can say it’s with money from sales and no doubt you will. Probably in the same breath as saying they sell players to pocket the money  And where are your facts that the transfer committee works differently with Klopp than it did with BR. I eagerly await for you to publish the facts that you made this sweeping statement from. Over to you. The answer is no one on here knows 100%, it has been stated by lots of Liverpool reporters who are in the know that Klopp has the final say on who comes in/leaves, there is a team, call them a committee if you want who identify players, with all the metrics available today, player recruitment is a science. It has been openly stated that Klopp did not initially fancy Salah, that he had to be convinced to sign him, which they did, but if he had not been convinced, we would not have signed him. To attract Klopp for the job, I am sure FSG would have agreed pretty much anything Klopp wanted in the running of the club, he was a high profile manager in demand and we were a struggling club trying to attract him. Brendan Rodgers did not have the background or experience of Klopp, he took the job on FSG terms as he was just happy to get a top job. The clearest example of BR not being in charge of transfers was when he went infront of the worlds press and laughed off signing Balotelli like it was a big joke, then 3 weeks later we signed him, he was not a BR signing in any shape or form and BR stated that before we bought him. I cannot see that happening with Klopp. I am convinced Klopp has the final say but has to work within a budget, which is normal. However, I have no idea on how the budget is decided.
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Welsh your problem is that u think ur opinions are facts, and that we should just accept it.
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Welsh your problem is that u think ur opinions are facts, and that we should just accept it. Quite happy for people not to agree with my opinions, as long as they can put forward reasoned, logical arguments for my opinions being incorrect. A certain poster here cannot, so he resorts to insults or childish mentioned of Cech and Lavezzi.
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How are they meaningless? I'm trying to get attention to the fact that we have owners who are not in my opinion the best for our club?
Did you notice that JWH dashed over to London last week to watch the Red Sox in a pointless game yet can't be bothered to watch many of our games?
Is it not better to draw attention to my fears that FSG will not spend any substantial money this window instead of moaning after the window closes?
If we sign Mbappe, Coutinho, or Dembelle, hell even Pepe I will take it back, doesn't look very likely though does it.
I believe that they think the job is done, we dont need to invest, Spurs didn't last summer and got to the CL final etc.
My fear is we do that and it's back to competing for 4th again.
We need new players, I just think that the appetite does not exist with our owners. What a fukking insult to our owners. Why shouldn't he come over to watch the Red Sox in London? I think it shows that he supports all his ventures globally. And after all this was a regular season game NOT a friendly or small cup game. You cannot belittle it like that. They gave up home field advantage to play in London and it shows how our owners welcome the chance to explore revenues by gaining a wider fanbase. Most of us would be mortified (myself included) if we gave up a home game to play Scumchester or Chelsea in the USA even for the sake of winning more fans. But he owned Red Sox way before us and you question him. Can you imagine what Red Sox fans would have thought of their owner had he snubbed the London game? You really are clueless about this aren't you? How do you know he hasn't met up with Klopp whilst here or held talks with Michael Edwards regarding transfers? But for you to have a go at him to prioritise the baseball season over our football season which if you hadn't noticed has FINISHED, is ridiculous!
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Welsh your problem is that u think ur opinions are facts, and that we should just accept it. Quite happy for people not to agree with my opinions, as long as they can put forward reasoned, logical arguments for my opinions being incorrect. A certain poster here cannot, so he resorts to insults or childish mentioned of Cech and Lavezzi. I told you why I think it’s not the same as in Rodgers time as requested by you. You haven’t said to me why you think it does. So you’re not putting forward any reasoned argument just spaffing words on a forum that are meaningless. How are the Cech and Lavezzi deals going anyway?
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[quote=ecnirp98][quote=Welsh_Wizard][quote=wilkij1975]
I am convinced Klopp has the final say but has to work within a budget, which is normal. However, I have no idea on how the budget is decided. The budget will have lots of factors, after our recent success, I am sure it is looking healthy, but obviously for commercial reasons LFC are not going to state that, or all the prices will go through the roof, you could say it's very clever to say we are not doing much business, then we could nip in with a big buy and take our rivals by surprise, abit like how we did with Fab.
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I am convinced Klopp has the final say but has to work within a budget, which is normal. However, I have no idea on how the budget is decided. [/quote]
I think that's accurate. A bit of perspective is required regarding transfers I think.
If we don't buy any top players this summer, it's not because FSG refused to back Klopp, he just wouldn't accept that.
He's shown he's very particular when it comes to players and it's proved very successful for it so long may it continue. FSG wouldn't sanction a £150m player and rightly so but that doesn't mean they won't back him.
He clearly hasn't got a blank cheque book and there's parameters in place, but transfers are a complicated business and there's plenty of reasons for Klopp not to get his top targets. I also think he understands FSG's policy of not over-paying, especially for older players.
We need players this summer and I think we'll get them. If not now, then January.
Champions of Europe and let's face it, if it wasn't for oil money we'd be on top of the f*cking world right now.
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I wouldn't be so sure FSG would not sanction a £150 million player, if Klopp really wanted him (like with a VvD), if the club could get him, I think we would, but I think Klopp would balk at that sort of money.
Klopp's history is he likes to buy and develop players, to suit his style and improve them, so he doesn't usually buy many 'ready made' galactico type players.
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Maybe FSG would depending on their age, but I highly doubt it, especially when they've seen klopp turn £30m players into £150m players.
Klopp I agree wouldn't either, unless it was a very exceptional circumstance.
We seem to be in a good position regarding transfers. Less of a scattergun approach, more calculated, reasoned and criteria driven, from Klopp as well as FSG. I'm much less worried about buying several players instead of 1 world class player and there being a chance most would flop. If he spent £70m on someone like Pepe, there's a good chance he'll be worth £150m in 2 years whereas I guess from FSG's perspective, someone ready made wouldn't increase in value anywhere near as much.
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I wouldn't be so sure FSG would not sanction a £150 million player, if Klopp really wanted him (like with a VvD), if the club could get him, I think we would, but I think Klopp would balk at that sort of money.
Klopp's history is he likes to buy and develop players, to suit his style and improve them, so he doesn't usually buy many 'ready made' galactico type players.
I just hope Klopp doesn't become a Wenger when it comes to transfers, developing young players is very commendable but for a club like ours this cannot be the main thrust or we'll just end up as Arsenal after enjoying a great period at the beginning of Wenger's reign. Klopp has however broken the record of buying the most expensive defender and GK, he will need to keep it up whenever we can afford and we can improve the team/squad, that's the only way to win things regularly and keep a significant fan base which allows for big sponsorships
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