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Originally Posted By LiverbirdLain
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By lumba
I think we're all struggling with this being top thing.


I ain’t. I’m loving it. We’re where we should be in challenging for the league.


I think your fearless Wilki,lots of us aint there just yet.


Not really. We’re where we all want to be aren’t we? Challenging again. I’m just enjoying it and will be over the moon if we win it but if we don’t then that’s sport.

The big test for me win or lose this season is if we can sustain a challenge again next season.

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Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
These last three or four performances in the wake of the junkets are a real source of negativity though. Not many fans can cheerfully embrace those performances, as our lead at the top slips and slips and slips away.
Having said that though, I fancy us to pick ourselves up and take three points against Watford on Wednesday night. Maybe if we do, we an put those debacles behind us and begin to embrace hope again.


That’s the spirit. We have been shitte this year but we have been every Jan and Feb under Klopp. We all know what we’re capable off so if we get back to that then there’s no reason we can’t stay right there until the end.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Supporting your team is not being mindlessly positive (well maybe when you are 10) but as adults we are free to express an opinion. And my opinion was Liverpool were poor yesterday and as shearer highlighted on match of the day were in second gear for much of the game. If that upsets some so be it but I am not happy and we need to buck our ideas up very fast


It’s also not being mindlessly negative too.


I am not being mindlessly negative I have got behind the team and not just on the internet. But there are problems and I have a right to think about them if we don't buck up quick you can forget the title. If you think laughing gas is the answer great


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I’m not saying you have and not saying you can’t. I have also said we need to play better or rather that we’ve played shitte. I really think you people need to learn to read better or at all in fact.

I prefer to have balance which you seem to have most of the time too. We’re pjaying shitte at the moment and need to improve. But we’re stiil top and we all know how much better we are and can play. I thought we were doing what we all want and expect us to do in challenging for the title?

See. A nice balanced view.

So not sure where this mindless positivity thing came from? But the mindless negativity is there for all to see.

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I agree, even the most optimistic Liverpool fan must be worried about our current form, but we are top of the PL with 11 games to go, we are well and truly challenging, if we were not challenging, City would be 5 points clear running away with it (probably more if we weren't breathing down Pep's polo neck jumper).

This time last year after 27 PL games we were 18 points behind Man City, in 3rd behind Utd, that's a 19 point swing, which is 6 wins, I thought we'd put in a challenge this year, but not to be neck & neck with City all the way.

City have a better squad, but if we can kick in some form (big if), we can push on and win the PL, we just have to match City's results, I do not see City winning every game, they will drop points like we will.

We need to improve the team/squad, no doubt that will happen in the summer, this is an ongoing process, no one at LFC said well that's it, we got the squad to win the PL in the summer, the fact we went for Fekir and didn't do the deal shows we thought there is a weakness up front, I think Klopp made a mistake not bringing a forward/attacker in January, but that's his choice, I hope it won't backfire on us.

I don't think fans are being mindlessly positive, they are hopeful and are glad we are where we are, but after 29 years of false dawns and let downs, even the most optimistic must be worried hearing the echo's from recent challenges! I think the difference this time is that the previous challenges felt like they were built on sand, this challenge is built on top players that we can build on, whatever happens this season, that's why the likes of City & Utd are worried, maybe just as worried as we are....


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Originally Posted By ecnirp98
I agree, even the most optimistic Liverpool fan must be worried about our current form, but we are top of the PL with 11 games to go, we are well and truly challenging, if we were not challenging, City would be 5 points clear running away with it (probably more if we weren't breathing down Pep's polo neck jumper).

This time last year after 27 PL games we were 18 points behind Man City, in 3rd behind Utd, that's a 19 point swing, which is 6 wins, I thought we'd put in a challenge this year, but not to be neck & neck with City all the way.

City have a better squad, but if we can kick in some form (big if), we can push on and win the PL, we just have to match City's results, I do not see City winning every game, they will drop points like we will.

We need to improve the team/squad, no doubt that will happen in the summer, this is an ongoing process, no one at LFC said well that's it, we got the squad to win the PL in the summer, the fact we went for Fekir and didn't do the deal shows we thought there is a weakness up front, I think Klopp made a mistake not bringing a forward/attacker in January, but that's his choice, I hope it won't backfire on us.

I don't think fans are being mindlessly positive, they are hopeful and are glad we are where we are, but after 29 years of false dawns and let downs, even the most optimistic must be worried hearing the echo's from recent challenges! I think the difference this time is that the previous challenges felt like they were built on sand, this challenge is built on top players that we can build on, whatever happens this season, that's why the likes of City & Utd are worried, maybe just as worried as we are....



Agree especially the bold part. It was so obvious that we were too thin with a weak bench,ie, Origi, Sturridge and Lallana. This is why I am disgusted and will take it as it comes, without much expectations. In my mind, the damage is done, only hope is City not focusing on the league being in 3 competitions and players getting injured.

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Originally Posted By ecnirp98
I agree, even the most optimistic Liverpool fan must be worried about our current form, but we are top of the PL with 11 games to go, we are well and truly challenging, if we were not challenging, City would be 5 points clear running away with it (probably more if we weren't breathing down Pep's polo neck jumper).

This time last year after 27 PL games we were 18 points behind Man City, in 3rd behind Utd, that's a 19 point swing, which is 6 wins, I thought we'd put in a challenge this year, but not to be neck & neck with City all the way.

City have a better squad, but if we can kick in some form (big if), we can push on and win the PL, we just have to match City's results, I do not see City winning every game, they will drop points like we will.

We need to improve the team/squad, no doubt that will happen in the summer, this is an ongoing process, no one at LFC said well that's it, we got the squad to win the PL in the summer, the fact we went for Fekir and didn't do the deal shows we thought there is a weakness up front, I think Klopp made a mistake not bringing a forward/attacker in January, but that's his choice, I hope it won't backfire on us.

I don't think fans are being mindlessly positive, they are hopeful and are glad we are where we are, but after 29 years of false dawns and let downs, even the most optimistic must be worried hearing the echo's from recent challenges! I think the difference this time is that the previous challenges felt like they were built on sand, this challenge is built on top players that we can build on, whatever happens this season, that's why the likes of City & Utd are worried, maybe just as worried as we are....



Agree with that. Almost sensible and realistic view of where we’re at.

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Originally Posted By ecnirp98
I agree, even the most optimistic Liverpool fan must be worried about our current form, but we are top of the PL with 11 games to go, we are well and truly challenging, if we were not challenging, City would be 5 points clear running away with it (probably more if we weren't breathing down Pep's polo neck jumper).

This time last year after 27 PL games we were 18 points behind Man City, in 3rd behind Utd, that's a 19 point swing, which is 6 wins, I thought we'd put in a challenge this year, but not to be neck & neck with City all the way.

City have a better squad, but if we can kick in some form (big if), we can push on and win the PL, we just have to match City's results, I do not see City winning every game, they will drop points like we will.

We need to improve the team/squad, no doubt that will happen in the summer, this is an ongoing process, no one at LFC said well that's it, we got the squad to win the PL in the summer, the fact we went for Fekir and didn't do the deal shows we thought there is a weakness up front, I think Klopp made a mistake not bringing a forward/attacker in January, but that's his choice, I hope it won't backfire on us.

I don't think fans are being mindlessly positive, they are hopeful and are glad we are where we are, but after 29 years of false dawns and let downs, even the most optimistic must be worried hearing the echo's from recent challenges! I think the difference this time is that the previous challenges felt like they were built on sand, this challenge is built on top players that we can build on, whatever happens this season, that's why the likes of City & Utd are worried, maybe just as worried as we are....


Agree with every word. How many times (years) have we complained about not competing being out of it by Xmas etc. Now we are top with 11 games to go.

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Yeah the run in isn't bad, indeed it's very favourable. The question is: can we pick ourselves up from this mini slump and successfully negotiate Watford tomorrow and the lurking blues on Sunday? If we can, that would give us the required momentum I feel. However Spurs and Chelsea aren't to be taken lightly either, but yeah, you're right Flames, taken in the round, the run in couldn't be much kinder. Come on ye red's, it's a golden opportunity, shake off those nerves and go for it. YNWA

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