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Why should we fear? I think that's the problem with us fans. For whatever reason, some of us are too fearful of defeat. We should focus more simply on the moment, the anticiptation of something positive and then whatever will be will be. This fear psychosis is what perhaps causes the atmosphere at Anfield to have a detrimental effect on the team andhence is counter productive.
In the Leicester game, the support at the ground failed the team. Evening home game and it wasn't as if were being thrashed or something. In the 2nd half the fans should have been much more vocal... and even though we drew the team should have been given a rousing send of so they can feel the support.
Regarding tomorrow, I suggets we just play our game the way we have been all season. Too late to tinker now. It playesr make movements off the ball better than they seems to do the other evening and if we pass quicly then we should be good enough to outscore the opposition. It’s bevause we didn’t buy anyone. Because we weren’t great against Leicester. Blah, blah, blah. I’d hate to go into a fight with some of these on here! And I agree completely with your post.
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Seems after so many years of not winning fans are scared of one more year of the same. For that reason some can't enjoy Liverpool being top.
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Seems after so many years of not winning fans are scared of one more year of the same. For that reason some can't enjoy Liverpool being top. We've been close a few times over the last 28 years and blown it, so you can understand the pessimism. On paper City have the better team/squad and more resources, so they should win the PL and we should not even be really challenging, let alone leading the PL, luckily football is not played on paper  City cannot affect us, we do not play them, all we have to do is match/better their results, they cannot get 100 points anymore, we can!
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Why should we fear? I think that's the problem with us fans. For whatever reason, some of us are too fearful of defeat. We should focus more simply on the moment, the anticiptation of something positive and then whatever will be will be. This fear psychosis is what perhaps causes the atmosphere at Anfield to have a detrimental effect on the team andhence is counter productive.
In the Leicester game, the support at the ground failed the team. Evening home game and it wasn't as if were being thrashed or something. In the 2nd half the fans should have been much more vocal... and even though we drew the team should have been given a rousing send of so they can feel the support.
Regarding tomorrow, I suggets we just play our game the way we have been all season. Too late to tinker now. It playesr make movements off the ball better than they seems to do the other evening and if we pass quicly then we should be good enough to outscore the opposition. It’s bevause we didn’t buy anyone. Because we weren’t great against Leicester. Blah, blah, blah. I’d hate to go into a fight with some of these on here! And I agree completely with your post. I would say though, that whilst we shouldn't be so fearful of a less than perfect performance or result, there's nothing wrong in debatng reasons after the event. I do think that we have made mistakes by playing such a poor team in the cup, letting Clyne go and not signing anyone. Having suddenly found ourselves in such a strong position, we should have invested, even gambled, to take advantage.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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I'm hoping being away helps because Anfield recently has not been it's bouncing self. The fans are so desperate for us to win that the pressure on the players can be felt coming from the stands.
I hope Klopp doesn't try messing with the team too much, play our most inform, available players. RB should be Milner and hopefully by the time he tires and needs replacing, we have the game put to bed.
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Difficult game but at home West Ham will try to attack and that should play into our hands. I agree. Their fans demand the team does not sit back. We have scored 4 v them in each of our last 4 games against them.
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Another tough test, as we've lost the momentum, along with our solid defensive assurance, not to mention our much vaunted attacking power. This looks to me as though it could be a real grinder. A lot of our top performers will have to up their game considerably if we're to remain convincing challengers IMO. Tbh I'll settle for 0 - 1 though I'd be a lot happier, not to mention relieved, if we could blitz them and make a statement here. Anyone think I'm being too pessimistic on this, or possibly reading too much into our lacklustre Leicester performance?
The Leicester one was a one off I hope. I blame the result as 30% the pitch although it's the same for both sides. 25% the pen that wasn't given. 35% not sending off Maguire. Then he scores to level it. 10% the most consistent player making a silly challenge just before half time for the free kick leading up to their goal.
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Another tough test, as we've lost the momentum, along with our solid defensive assurance, not to mention our much vaunted attacking power. This looks to me as though it could be a real grinder. A lot of our top performers will have to up their game considerably if we're to remain convincing challengers IMO. Tbh I'll settle for 0 - 1 though I'd be a lot happier, not to mention relieved, if we could blitz them and make a statement here. Anyone think I'm being too pessimistic on this, or possibly reading too much into our lacklustre Leicester performance?
The Leicester one was a one off I hope. I blame the result as 30% the pitch although it's the same for both sides. 25% the pen that wasn't given. 35% not sending off Maguire. Then he scores to level it. 10% the most consistent player making a silly challenge just before half time for the free kick leading up to their goal. We have been poor since playing Arsenal, got beat by Wolves (can understand as it was not our first team but our bench showed how poor they were), just nicked it against Brighton and Crystal Palace and shyte against Leicester. It not really about the result but the way we are playing. Even manure with their Rookie manager are playing better these days.
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Why should we fear? I think that's the problem with us fans. For whatever reason, some of us are too fearful of defeat. We should focus more simply on the moment, the anticiptation of something positive and then whatever will be will be. This fear psychosis is what perhaps causes the atmosphere at Anfield to have a detrimental effect on the team andhence is counter productive.
In the Leicester game, the support at the ground failed the team. Evening home game and it wasn't as if were being thrashed or something. In the 2nd half the fans should have been much more vocal... and even though we drew the team should have been given a rousing send of so they can feel the support.
Regarding tomorrow, I suggets we just play our game the way we have been all season. Too late to tinker now. It playesr make movements off the ball better than they seems to do the other evening and if we pass quicly then we should be good enough to outscore the opposition. It’s bevause we didn’t buy anyone. Because we weren’t great against Leicester. Blah, blah, blah. I’d hate to go into a fight with some of these on here! And I agree completely with your post. I would say though, that whilst we shouldn't be so fearful of a less than perfect performance or result, there's nothing wrong in debatng reasons after the event. I do think that we have made mistakes by playing such a poor team in the cup, letting Clyne go and not signing anyone. Having suddenly found ourselves in such a strong position, we should have invested, even gambled, to take advantage. Well you can bet your life that every single little thing we did wrong will be debated whether we’ve won 10-0 or not. Managers will make mistakes. They’re only human but it’s what you learn from them that counts and Klopp has learned from most of his. And I’d rather we not gamble being where we are. Why would we? Everyone thinks we’d instantly win the title had we bought someone but as I’ve pointed out before, that player could get injured, could unsettle the balance, could turn out shitte or we could just lose it anyway because City are so strong. Plus you have to ask who was out there to the right standard? Only Chelsea (and Arsenal?) who can challenge did anything in January. Says all I need to know. But for me, if you can’t enjoy this, no matter how much you want it, why the hell are you watching football?
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Well you can bet your life that every single little thing we did wrong will be debated whether we’ve won 10-0 or not. Managers will make mistakes. They’re only human but it’s what you learn from them that counts and Klopp has learned from most of his.
And I’d rather we not gamble being where we are. Why would we? Everyone thinks we’d instantly win the title had we bought someone but as I’ve pointed out before, that player could get injured, could unsettle the balance, could turn out shitte or we could just lose it anyway because City are so strong. Plus you have to ask who was out there to the right standard? Only Chelsea (and Arsenal?) who can challenge did anything in January. Says all I need to know.
But for me, if you can’t enjoy this, no matter how much you want it, why the hell are you watching football? I don't mind every detail being debated. That's exactly what a forum is for I suppose. Not everyone had to take part in every debate... those interested in the subject can freely carry on without impacting others. Agree managers make mistakes. We all do - it's part of human nature. As is fault finding, gossiping, 'I told you so', 'i could have don it better', 'you should have done this, you shouldn't have doen that'... again, exactly what the forum is for, no?  Why would we gamble? Because it might just make the difference. We were 7 points clear with half a season to go and a good foundation to maintain a challenge. But we could see that we have injuries, our midfiled is lacking and our general play overall hasn't been as fluid as last season. Some additional cover in defence or midfield or some fresh energy up front would have been handy. Even just a new character in the dressing roo, maybe an experienced one might have helped. Of course there are no guarantees. But that's what a gamble is. It might come off, it might not. But without it, we have to rely on the situation as it is... lot's of injuries, players filling gaps out of position, an average midfield and pressure on the front three, Salah in particular, to always provide the answers. If we bring in a fresh face, a specialits or and experienced addition and it doesn't work out then at least we tried. Who would we bring in? That's for the scouts to deside. If they say we looked and just didn't see anyone then so be it. But I suspect there's always a possibility of a player in the top leagues not getting games etc. Surely we could've found someon even just on loan. At the end of the day, it's just an opinion. Window over now so we just brace oursleves and just try to enjoy the ride. Some of us won't simply because we're all different. Not everyone likes to drive in the fast line, ride on roller coasters etc. Some just like to sit back, sip a beverage and smoke cigars I suppose... drawing at home to Leicester perhaps doesn't set the right atmosphere for that.  Whoeve we are, whatever our individual natures, preferences, thoughts etc... one thing is for sure... we all just want the team to do well. Come on ye reds! 
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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