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Yeah the whole thing is under control.

Interesting few weeks coming up.

It would be if everyone put their own interests aside and worked for the good of the country. Shame not one of our politicians seems to be capable of that.

Good article by Michael gove today in the mail and in particular the deal on the backstop which is the sticking point for most including me. However few understand what was agreed and you look into the detail it's not ideal no but as negative to the EU as the UK so it's hard to see how the EU would agree to it indefinitely harming themselves just to hack Britain off out of spite. And that's assuming the backstop is triggered it might not be. As for the rest of the detail yes I have issues but as someone wise once said "successful negotiation is getting what nobody wants" the deal delivers most (but not all) the benefits of brexit I voted for and for me that's going to have to be good enough. The deal also has things in it for remainers we are not fully leaving the EU. It would be good to think common sense prevails in our privileged political class on the 11th Dec but I fear not

What I have learned is that a successful negotiation is when both sides are happy especially if both parties are to work together in the long term as partners. The problem in this case is that the division in the UK runs very deep, thus nobody in the extremes will be happy

The deal involves a close relationship with the EU and other than the backstop it I could probably live with it. Even the backstop is not as bad as being made out when you look into the detail. We need to accept this deal and move on

It's up to your Tories they have the majority

UK Parliament Speaker: ‘Arguable Case’ Govt May Have Broken Rules Over Brexit

By Breitbart London - 03 Dec 2018

John Bercow, the speaker of the United Kingdom’s House of Commons has decided the government may be in contempt of Parliament by not publishing the legal advice it revealed over Prime Minister Theresa May’s Brexit deal.

The government took legal advice from Attorney General Geoffrey Cox on its Brexit plan and was subsequently told by a vote of Parliament to make the document available to members of the house. DUP Westminster faction leader Sammy Wilson has claimed if the document were to go public it would reveal that the Prime Minister had lied to the country about her Brexit plan.

Rather than publishing the full document, however, on Monday the government published a 43-page document summarising Cox’s legal opinion instead. Opposition parties demanded the attorney general’s full, original advice, claiming the government would be in contempt of Parliament if it did not comply.

House of Commons Speaker John Bercow agreed late Monday there was an “arguable case” that contempt had been committed. His assessment means Parliament will debate the issue Tuesday, likely delaying the start of the main Brexit debate.

Lawmakers can send the issue to a committee with the power to sanction ministers.

The most contentious legal issue arising from the Brexit agreement is how Britain could get out of a “backstop” provision that would keep the country in a customs union with the EU to guarantee an open border between Ireland and Northern Ireland.

The backstop is intended as a temporary measure, but pro-Brexit lawmakers say it could leave Britain tied to the EU indefinitely and unable to strike new trade deals around the world.

The legal advice confirmed that Britain can’t unilaterally opt out of the backstop, which requires either an agreement with the EU or a decision by an arbitration panel.

In a statement to Parliament, Cox confirmed that “there is no unilateral right of either party to terminate this arrangement.”

Cox said he would have preferred that not to be the case, but that he supported the divorce deal as “a sensible compromise.”

“The divorce and separation of nations from long and intimate unions, just as of human beings, stirs high emotion and calls for wisdom and forbearance,” he said.

The Associated Press contributed to this story

aaaaaaaaaaaaaah, so somewhere deep, deep, deep down within the twisty, long, winding chasms of Vish there is actually a smidgen of humour...well played