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If Freedom of movement is still in place after the fun is over i'll be laughing hard.

Labour representative on the Andrew Marr show said labour are against Norway deal although that was yesterday they might have changed their minds. No matter they will have changed back tommorow

It doesn’t matter to me either way but as part of leaving involved no free movement I’m not sure how we can have it and claim it to be a success (whatever that is and if we can call even a part of this a success?).

They remind me of you

The Labour position is for a permenant customs union but not in the single market and hence not freedom of movement. It's true EFFA the norway option would result in free movement but the nick boles plan is "norway for now" not permanent in which case it is little different to the transition deal. The "norway for now" is a strong possibility in the event the deal gets voted down on 11th Dec. So whilst lumba might be wetting himself at all those lovely Eastern Europeans coming over the bad news lumba is it's a temporary arrangement. But even a norway arrangement on a permanent basis is better than being in the EU which is why the Norwegians have rejected being in the EU twice. Why ? Because you keep control norway can opt out at any time. It's also difficult to equate Britain with norway we are a far bigger population and economy

I thought Labour's position was a customs union until they rejected the deal which is a customs union in the withdrawal agreement

That’s just Labour playing their politics with the future of our country Vish. As I said before, whatever the deal was that came back, they were going to reject it to try and force a general election and try to gain power. Then they can get us a “better” deal that Sir Kier couldn’t tell us what would be.

They’re as big a bunch of shitte sticks as the likes of Rees Mogg and all his cronies that are playing games with all of our futures. I don’t think I’ll be voting for any of these cvnts next time around.

Exactly right labours position on brexit is whatever it takes to bring down the government. As all of you know I am a brexiteer probably a hard brexiteer. However I am also a realist the EU was never going to give us a deal the same as an EU member and I don't blame them. Any deal with the EU was always going to be a soft brexit. The choice is between Theresa Mays deal or no deal. I don't think another referendum is an option for those who wish it be very careful what you wish for Britain has always been politically stable (always) we have never seen extreme politics and I hope we never do. Personally I would be fine with no deal however the politics does not work. We also need to recognise although leave won the result was close. As a brexiteer if you had offered me Theresa Mays deal five years ago I would have snatched your hand off. If I was an MP i would (with a heavy heart) vote for it.

Maybe the public should have their say on the deal? I’m not for another in or out referendum but if our shitte stick politicians can’t come together for the good of the country then maybe it should be left to us? Then they can all to a man/woman fukk off and get some people in who actually want to work for us and not themselves.

What TM,s deal or no deal ? We would have to delay article 50 for up to a year to put in place the legal mechanism for such a vote. A major court case today decided Britain cannot unilaterally reverse article 50 so we would need every EU state to unanimously agree to it. I very much doubt they would. I also don't believe that's the sort of technical thing that cannot be voted on by the public. Remain Politicians would also demand the option of remain was on the ballot paper. It would be complete and utter chaos and won't happen as the EU would never agree to it and I would not blame them