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My only problem is his timing in playing politics. It’s just wrong in such an important time. As you say, there’s a draft agreement so what will change if they do manage their goal? The only thing I could see happening is things going more in the Aeu’s favour and not ours so how would that be any better? Would also be interesting to see if Labour would give the people a vote on their deal like they want the Tory’s to do?
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My only problem is his timing in playing politics. It’s just wrong in such an important time. As you say, there’s a draft agreement so what will change if they do manage their goal? The only thing I could see happening is things going more in the Aeu’s favour and not ours so how would that be any better? Would also be interesting to see if Labour would give the people a vote on their deal like they want the Tory’s to do? I don't think the EU will change their approach depending on who they are negotiating with, they always had models depending on what the UK wanted. Those hard Brexiters thought that they could get their cake and eat it, was never going to happen.
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Well the EU has agreed the deal according to the BBC so let’s see what happens. Labour will play their game with it as will the DUP and the hard Breciteers.
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I thought Labour wanted a customs union which this deal is. I think they would first push for a general election and if they can't get it then they will vote the deal, else I don't know what they want.
Doesn’t matter. Corbyn was always going to vote the deal down in the hope of forcing an election to hope to get into power. All Corbyn and his cronies wantbis that regardless of any deal. He said earlier in the week he could get a better deal but that he hadn’t read the deal! Yes labour want to get into power ,shock horror.
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As if the tories would not take advantage. Could actually turn out amazing for the uk, if you still have most the advantages of a custom union and a new political will to end inequality with a progressive peoples movement, the uk could flourish.
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In World War Two both the Labour Party and the Tories worked together for the benefit of the nation. Obviously brexit is not as serious as World War Two but it's pretty serious it effects our future whether you are Tory or labour voter. This is not a time for party politics. Corbyn also does not command the Labour Party many labour MP,s oppose Corbyn and I would not be surprise if a decent number of moderates support Mays vote in the commons (now the final hurdle). Particularly as most head up leave constituencies this deal is also pretty much what labour were asking for a year ago. The alternative is no deal or another referendum good luck with either of those options
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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In World War Two both the Labour Party and the Tories worked together for the benefit of the nation. Obviously brexit is not as serious as World War Two but it's pretty serious it effects our future whether you are Tory or labour voter. This is not a time for party politics. Corbyn also does not command the Labour Party many labour MP,s oppose Corbyn and I would not be surprise if a decent number of moderates support Mays vote in the commons (now the final hurdle). Particularly as most head up leave constituencies this deal is also pretty much what labour were asking for a year ago. The alternative is no deal or another referendum good luck with either of those options This is more or less what I understood Keir Starmer wanted and I think Corbyn understands FA when it comes to the economy. May should try to meet Starmer to make a deal, I think he understands more than any MP.
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Labour has these six tests which if you read them are ridiculous one is that we leave the EU and have the exact same benefits as EU members good luck with selling that concept to barnier and merkel. The six tests are vaugue and designed to fail in the interpretation of the Labour Party which simply wants to bring the government down irrespective of labour leave voters or the good of the country. Completely disagree with starmer he basically says nothing if you listen to him he says a lot i grant you that but it's meaningless drivel
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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As if the tories would not take advantage. Could actually turn out amazing for the uk, if you still have most the advantages of a custom union and a new political will to end inequality with a progressive peoples movement, the uk could flourish. They would. And I’d be as p!ssed at them for it too just as I am those Tory’s who are playing games too. And oh dear. All Corbyn and his throw back cronies will do is take us back to the dark days of the seventies.
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