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Spain can't veto the withdrawal agreement but the EU would like it to be unanimous. However Spain can veto a future trade deal in the next stage but Spain is not a power broker in the EU France and Germany run the EU spain will be brought into line. It's a non issue france more so but as I said from day one there will be a lot of fuss then at the last minute a deal is done. I also think the press makes more of things than is reality remember newspapers and sky news are out to make money not inform.

Big Business don't want to leave the EU because they have sweet deals in place with the EU. They lobby with the unelected Bureaucrats in Brussels, lining their pockets along with the Politicians in the UK parliament. They contribute to the false fake NGO groups along with the likes of Soros, who are paid to demonstrate with their fake false outrage. They are behind the scenes wagging fingers at those in power to stop anybody against the EU, pigeon holing them as nazis / racists, misogynists, just about any undesirable hate out there! This all backed up by the MSM who these folks own or have very favorable relationships hence why the torrent of manipulated press for the EU and remaining in it and blowing any angle up millions of times worse on anything negative towards anything or anybody against the EU.

This is repeated over the other side of The Atlantic with the enemy of these folks being Donald Trump and his supporters. Forget about all the good the Guy has done, in fact never report anything good he has done and just eviscerate the Guy over and over, 24/7, 365 days of the year.

Indeed Spain on it's own cannot do much and usually they will end up aligning with the EU commission, the Spanish government ate doing that for internal political reasons. The main stumbling block is the Tories infighting, don't know how you fix that other by a general election or people's vote.

My bet however would be Labour or at least a big number of their MPs voting for May's deal, this is what I would do if I was Corbyn. That would split the Tories and weaken them for a decade. But he keeps on banging for a general election which will not happen I think. The soap keeps on getting more interesting.

Corbyn and Labour are just so desperate for power that they’ll try anything to get an election. I don’t think it’ll happen but as you say, if they vote the deal through for the Tory’s it’ll be one of the worst things for the Tory’s. How do you live down relying on Labour to get things done?

Corbyn said he could get a better deal just before admitting that he hadn’t even read the deal which just proves what he’s up to.

And how would Labour get a good deal in such a short time? By giving them exactly what they want and shitting on us.

I thought Labour wanted a customs union which this deal is. I think they would first push for a general election and if they can't get it then they will vote the deal, else I don't know what they want.

Doesn’t matter. Corbyn was always going to vote the deal down in the hope of forcing an election to hope to get into power. All Corbyn and his cronies wantbis that regardless of any deal. He said earlier in the week he could get a better deal but that he hadn’t read the deal!

Yes they should aim for tat but at what cost to the country? The only way he’ll get a better deal in a short time is to give the EU what they want and not what’s best for the country. Gaining power at any cost just shows him up to be no better than any of the rest of them.