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Yeah I think so.

I think the obvious thing is that no deal is not an option..there is no such thing as no deal.

Vish we could have a referendum on the 30th march to rejoin the EU after we have left on the 29th march although that would require a majority in parliment to pass the bill I suggest that's unlikely. However if after x years we were to have another referendum fine and I would respect the result. Stopping article 50 is no longer in the UK,s power it requires all 27 member states to agree if just one objects it's stopped and the UK will fall out of the EU irrespective of anything our parliment says. The EU has made it clear their offer is final so extending article 50 can only be on the basis of another referendum. To do that parliment would have to pass a repealing act in the next four months. I can't see that happening given neither labour or Tories at the moment are proposing another referendum

You never know, it will all depend on your situation in a no deal. It's just getting more and more interesting. I don't think there will be any issues for the 27 countries to stop article 50, but there should be a chance of no Brexit

Vish I don't think the 27 EU countries would object to extending article 50 for another referendum but I would think they would to carry on negotiations. Plus if we reopened negotiations the EU always wants something else which might be equally unpalatabe. It's possible legally for another referendum but politicially I can't see it, it would simply create more division. Let's say remain narrowly won people would say for generations the people voted to leave and the UK political establishment along with the EU contrived a situation where the people had to vote again to give the right answer. It would never be accepted by the people in my view. I don't know what to think now but I said there would be a deal and there was what next hard to predict but if Theresa May survives for the next week my feeling is the deal will be voted for by parliment probably early jan and might take two sessions in parliment the first voted out the second voted in. I see no alternative other than no deal. Remember also this is only the withdrawal stage the main negotiations are the next stage and the Britain being tied to the customs union is only in the event of the backstop triggered

Just 28 Percent of Britons Want to Stop Brexit, Plurality Wants May to Go

by Victoria Friedman - 16 Nov 2018

Just 28 per cent of Britons want to stop Brexit while a plurality wants Theresa May to step down as prime minister.

YouGov asked a sample of citizens where they wanted to go next with Brexit and 16 per cent said that Britain should accept the draft deal arranged between bureaucrats in the European Union and Prime Minister Theresa May, while 11 per cent said the country should reject it and negotiate a different deal.

However, a higher number, 19 per cent, said that Britain should reject it and leave the EU without any deal, trading with the bloc as it does with other international countries on World Trade Organization (WTO) terms.



Just a combined 36 per cent want to stop Brexit one way or another, either by stopping Brexit now and remaining in the EU (28 per cent) or holding a “People’s Vote” on whether to accept the draft deal (eight per cent) — an endeavour by Remainers to legitimise a second referendum in hopes that, this time, Britons will vote ‘the right way.’

The survey, published Friday, found a plurality of the general population, 47 per cent, think that Theresa May should stand down as Conservative Party leader and prime minister, with 33 per cent wishing for her to remain.

Fifty-five per cent of leave voters want her to go, while with remain voters it is closely split between those who want her to stay (40 per cent) versus those who want her to leave (39 per cent).

A slim majority of Tory voters (46/43 per cent) want her to remain in post.



The survey also found that a plurality, 45 per cent, do not believe that the draft deal respects the spirit of the June 2016 referendum. Only 28 per cent believes that it respects the result.

This plurality is represented not just across the general population (45/28), but amongst Remainers (33/41), Leavers (26/58), Conservatives (32/54), and Labour voters (26/48).

Total fiasco...by design.

Probably only a no deal will be able to unite the UK as then there won't be any guessing, everybody would know the consequences, both good and bad.

Oh, oh I'm trapped
Like a fool I'm in a cage
I can't get out
You see I'm trapped
Can't you see I'm so confused?
I can't get out

Without the lies this time.