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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Shaggy I did not follow the twists and turns of the good Friday agreement when it was going on. But I would like to bet both the republican and loyalist sides did not get everything they wanted in the negotiations and I bet both sides had to swallow some very difficult aspects that they were not at all comfortable with. Yet the agreement was ultimately a success. We are in the moment at the silly period where everyone is throwing up their hands in horror but there are six weeks to go before parliment vote plenty of time for things to settle down. However if cabinet rejected it this afternoon or there were resignations then we have a problem. However if it goes through cabinet despite everyone saying parliment will reject it I don't think they will. But I could be wrong


In many ways Stan the Brexit negotiations are very similar to the GFA negotiations. A lot of rumours, tough negotiations, threatened walkouts and much drama. But they got there in the end up. But of course neither side got everything they wanted. Thankfully agreement was still reached and it has made a world of difference here ever since.
But where they differ is that with the GFA a deal was negotiated, agreed upon by all involved and then put to the people. Brexit has unfortunately been the other way round.

I think that getting Chequers past the cabinet will probably be the toughest hurdle. If that's successful hopefully it will just about sneak through parliament. No one has offered abetter alternative so it looks like Chequers or bust.

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It would have been a fascinating exercise to do it in the same order of events as the good Friday agreement. Firstly we would have to have 2 years of deep negotiations without knowing whether or not the British people wanted to leave the EU at all. Also the EU would have a massive incentive to make the deal as bad as possible assuming they were willing to negotiate on a hypothetical basis which I doubt very much. We are where we are let's deal with it


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It's ridiculous that the UK bowed down and rolled over for Brussels in the 1st place! Trump was right, UK should have started at giving nothing and asked what Brussels could do for them 1st...art of the deal, play hardball and let them do the worrying. So fcuking what if the UK gets threatened with not being able to trade within the EU...UK has the rest of the world to trade with, without losing it's rights to govern itself!

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Oh dear.

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Too many lazy arse.d establishment politicians who don't want to roll their sleeves up and get out there and see what sort of deals they could get, if all ties to EU are severed. But that would be the worse case scenario and we know the EU needs the UK more than the UK needs the EU!

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Originally Posted By Pickles
Too many lazy arse.d establishment politicians who don't want to roll their sleeves up and get out there and see what sort of deals they could get, if all ties to EU are severed. But that would be the worse case scenario and we know the EU needs the UK more than the UK needs the EU!



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There will be no severing of ties by the sound of it thankfully.


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Originally Posted By Pickles
Too many lazy arse.d establishment politicians who don't want to roll their sleeves up and get out there and see what sort of deals they could get, if all ties to EU are severed. But that would be the worse case scenario and we know the EU needs the UK more than the UK needs the EU!



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Originally Posted By lumba
There will be no severing of ties by the sound of it thankfully.


No severing of any ties ? I hope not


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Looks a good deal to me, staying in a customs union, as I have been saying for months by the way, doesn't damage the economy but allows border control for EU migrants. Don't know why anybody would be against that, including Labour who wanted something similar, from what I understood from them. Looks to me that a lot of Labour MPs would vote for this. Corbyn looks lost in words, don't understand wtf he is talking about or what he wants. He probably hadn't read the doc yet.

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