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with hicks gillett hodgson our future is bleak i hope im wrong (and im the guy said at half time in istanbul weve still got hope) but getting rid of rafa was a massive mistake
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Its so depressing to me to see how low our fans' expectations have sunk...Roy Hodgson - Seriously?!...Shocking that people think that this is a good move for what was, one season ago, a high flying football club which people respected. Now we're appointing a 63 year old man from Fulham. How depressing.
I honestly didnt think we could get any lower after last season - I'm so fed up. Why dont you give the feller a chance before you right him off, who do you actualy think Liverpool Football Club are nowadays, no money, badly run, not won there own domestic league in nearly a quarter of a century, we as a football Club are hardly a Man United, Real Madrid or Barcelona. I could just see the likes of you back in the 70's when Shanks retired, you would be saying dont give it to Paisley he's only a coach it has to be given to Brian Clough or Don Revie who were the big names at the time, if we done that do you think we would of been the club we were today. We are no longer the club we used to be and until people get used to that fact and start to cut our cloth accordingly we will never be able to move on because we will forever be bogged down with our glorious past from another age ago. If it is to be Roy then lets give the feller a chance, he obviously must believe in us and think something of us given the situation with turmoil and players wanting off that currently surrounds our once great club, just remember most managers would'nt touch us with a barge pole with our owners and no money to spend. absolutely spot on .
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And if we followed your advice we would'nt be the club we are today. In fact we would never have got back out the second division in the 50's. There is a simple reason we are the club we are. It's because we, the fans, expect, the players expect, and everyone else expects us to be there. If we followed your philosophy then we would settle for mid league and that would be that.
It is precisely the cloth you want to cut that will enable us to move on. I believe Roy could actually be the one move us forward over the next season, he wont win us the league but he will put us in with a chance of top 4. New owners come in and then it is crunch time, we will have to pick the man who will move us further forward.
This is LFC we don't forget our past because it will be the key to our future. What your saying is precisley the same as what Evertonians, Spurs and Leeds fans all said in the past when the game moved on from them. You get exactly nothing once you go on the pitch from having such a glorious history and in most cases it makes it harder for you because it becomes a burden due to expectation levels. We as a Club are no longer one of the giants of the game, we are still a big Club in terms of history and support but in the grand scale of things we have been left behind. There is not a so called top club in europe gone 21 years since winning there own league and that has took it's toll over time. The game has moved on and the things that made us good in the past are no longer any use to us, the links with the past have gone forever Shanks, Paisley, Fagin, Peter Robison and John Smith, the boot room, the great players and worst of the lot the local support which made the club famous throughout the world, them times will never return unfortunately. were still a big club? massive club mate, our time will come again, and man utd bought their sucess, they always outspent everybody in the earlier days of the prem but people forget that and just focus on chelsea
Goodnese me, Could this be, Insdustrial Disease?
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And if we followed your advice we would'nt be the club we are today. In fact we would never have got back out the second division in the 50's. There is a simple reason we are the club we are. It's because we, the fans, expect, the players expect, and everyone else expects us to be there. If we followed your philosophy then we would settle for mid league and that would be that.
It is precisely the cloth you want to cut that will enable us to move on. I believe Roy could actually be the one move us forward over the next season, he wont win us the league but he will put us in with a chance of top 4. New owners come in and then it is crunch time, we will have to pick the man who will move us further forward.
This is LFC we don't forget our past because it will be the key to our future. What your saying is precisley the same as what Evertonians, Spurs and Leeds fans all said in the past when the game moved on from them. You get exactly nothing once you go on the pitch from having such a glorious history and in most cases it makes it harder for you because it becomes a burden due to expectation levels. We as a Club are no longer one of the giants of the game, we are still a big Club in terms of history and support but in the grand scale of things we have been left behind. There is not a so called top club in europe gone 21 years since winning there own league and that has took it's toll over time. The game has moved on and the things that made us good in the past are no longer any use to us, the links with the past have gone forever Shanks, Paisley, Fagin, Peter Robison and John Smith, the boot room, the great players and worst of the lot the local support which made the club famous throughout the world, them times will never return unfortunately. were still a big club? massive club mate, our time will come again, and man utd bought their sucess, they always outspent everybody in the earlier days of the prem but people forget that and just focus on chelsea I agree, we are still a big club with a fantastic history but we are no longer a massive club, the giants of the game are United, Barca and Real Madrid, even when those clubs dont win things they remain the same whereas as all other clubs including us fall away. I would put us in the same bracket as the likes of Bayern Munich, Ajax and Benfica e.t.c. big clubs yes most definately but nowhere near as big as the three I just mentioned as the giants, those clubs are not just football clubs they are institutions.
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Man utd outspent everyone in the 70's and 80's they always broke the transfer record , as for Liverpool football club yes not one red agrees with the policy of the present ownership and hopefully the will be gone sooner maybe than later ,
but until Liverpool supporters wake to this charlatan Rafa benitez we will never move on , he has conned the life out of reds supporters he was a major part in the decline of the club along with the owners ,
he gladly sign a MASSIVE 5 year deal , sacking most of the back room staff to bring in Spanish coaches(jobs for the boys) ,
staff that had served Liverpool very very very well for a number of successful years not only under benitez but houllier and evans and even dalglish before ,
it was his 6th season at the club and not only did the brand of football change dramatically from the exciting team of 2006 to the mind-numbing brand of the recent years , he has without a doubt for me got rid of players (Alonso and hyypia) through shortsightedness and personal issues, which caused a devastating effect on the team ,
people say we finished 2nd in 2008/09 yes but if it wasn't for his negativity in early 2009 Liverpool would have easily won the league , i also here talk about Athens 2007 well clearly his tactics failed and failed badly when even A.C. Milan fans and players were scared of crouch he chose not to play him ,
plus the debacles of havant&waterlooville ,barnsley and the none competing in the league cup is just plenty to go by ,
his time was up and after 6 seasons and millions spent he never got a squad together , OK in 2009/10 he got little money but the seasons before he spent and spent BIG especially after the 2007 final when he bought , torres, benayoun,babel ETC , after already forking out for bellamy,agger and mascherano ,
sorry the decision to sack benitez was by far the best move these group of people have done in a tenure of not many good decisions , i say move on give the new man a big chance and hopefully new owners to help along the way ,
but please please stop making benitez out to be some sort of downtrodden poor treated saint like hero he is NOT and was NOT ,
its NOT RAFA BENITEZ F.C. we all support its LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB .
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