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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
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Do you think a bike thread would be popular?


Well the trial version has gone well grin

laugh Yeh soz about that.


That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
My reading of the situation is the EU are milking the Irish border issue until the last minute hoping to extract maximum concessions from the British. The British are holding their ground a stand off is happening. But ask yourself this ? Will a small amount of cross border farm produce (across the Irish border) result in a no deal with all the implications for trade across the EU and UK including germanys massive manufacturing industry with vast markets in the U.K. Maybe ? But I can't see it more theatre to follow but a deal will be done. Both sides agree other than the Irish border the deal is almost complete and was almost completed this weekend. I may be wrong but let's see


Pretending the Irish border is a non-issue will not make it go away.


It's the EU,s main lever once it's no longer useful to the EU it will return to its rightful place as a total non issue. Unless the cabbages and potatoes going over the border are the engine room of the European economy even you are not going to claim that surely ?


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
My reading of the situation is the EU are milking the Irish border issue until the last minute hoping to extract maximum concessions from the British. The British are holding their ground a stand off is happening. But ask yourself this ? Will a small amount of cross border farm produce (across the Irish border) result in a no deal with all the implications for trade across the EU and UK including germanys massive manufacturing industry with vast markets in the U.K. Maybe ? But I can't see it more theatre to follow but a deal will be done. Both sides agree other than the Irish border the deal is almost complete and was almost completed this weekend. I may be wrong but let's see


Pretending the Irish border is a non-issue will not make it go away.


It's the EU,s main lever once it's no longer useful to the EU it will return to its rightful place as a total non issue. Unless the cabbages and potatoes going over the border are the engine room of the European economy even you are not going to claim that surely ?


The border issue is a huge concern to the people of Ireland. Britain made a commitment to provide a backstop and you are simply being asked to honour that commitment.

Trying to blame everyone else but yourselves won't make the problem go away.
After today you now have a dead duck PM no feasible Brexit strategy and a parliament that is more divided than ever.

Who's fault is that?

Personally I blame Corbyn

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Wrong Shaggy its Jew hating Corbyn. Strong and stable

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Wrong Shaggy its Jew hating Corbyn. Strong and stable


If that's strong and stable she's never building a wall for me.

All for a blue passport.

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I am sure the border is important to the people who live around the border with the republic and the british government and the northern ireland leader from the DUP have pledged to ensure no hard border and I am 1000% sure that will happen. However lovely scenery though it is its not even a rounding error in UK / EU trade. I recall mentioning that to you many times before as always you cant grasp it. I also believe once the republic has outlived its usefulness in brexit it will also be an abandoned outpost of the EU. Irexit will grow and grow its inevitable trade / social / culture everything in ireland is very closely linked to britain. since 1923 we have had free movement of peoples and that will continue

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
I am sure the border is important to the people who live around the border with the republic and the british government and the northern ireland leader from the DUP have pledged to ensure no hard border and I am 1000% sure that will happen. However lovely scenery though it is its not even a rounding error in UK / EU trade. I recall mentioning that to you many times before as always you cant grasp it. I also believe once the republic has outlived its usefulness in brexit it will also be an abandoned outpost of the EU. Irexit will grow and grow its inevitable trade / social / culture everything in ireland is very closely linked to britain. since 1923 we have had free movement of peoples and that will continue


Oh dear. So your the solution now is that the Republic will exit the EU.

What country in their right mind would push to leave the EU after the Brexit pantomime.

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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
I am sure the border is important to the people who live around the border with the republic and the british government and the northern ireland leader from the DUP have pledged to ensure no hard border and I am 1000% sure that will happen. However lovely scenery though it is its not even a rounding error in UK / EU trade. I recall mentioning that to you many times before as always you cant grasp it. I also believe once the republic has outlived its usefulness in brexit it will also be an abandoned outpost of the EU. Irexit will grow and grow its inevitable trade / social / culture everything in ireland is very closely linked to britain. since 1923 we have had free movement of peoples and that will continue


Oh dear. So your the solution now is that the Republic will exit the EU.

What country in their right mind would push to leave the EU after the Brexit pantomime.


That is precisely the EU,s plan to punish any country that dares leave and frighten others into not attempting it. Fortunately the British people don't take kindly to threats and bullies. Cant see how post brexit Ireland fits the EU model of eventual United States of Europe.


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
I am sure the border is important to the people who live around the border with the republic and the british government and the northern ireland leader from the DUP have pledged to ensure no hard border and I am 1000% sure that will happen. However lovely scenery though it is its not even a rounding error in UK / EU trade. I recall mentioning that to you many times before as always you cant grasp it. I also believe once the republic has outlived its usefulness in brexit it will also be an abandoned outpost of the EU. Irexit will grow and grow its inevitable trade / social / culture everything in ireland is very closely linked to britain. since 1923 we have had free movement of peoples and that will continue


Oh dear. So your the solution now is that the Republic will exit the EU.

What country in their right mind would push to leave the EU after the Brexit pantomime.


That is precisely the EU,s plan to punish any country that dares leave and frighten others into not attempting it. Fortunately the British people don't take kindly to threats and bullies. Cant see how post brexit Ireland fits the EU model of eventual United States of Europe.


It is a negotiation not a war. Britain gave a commitment and is being asked to deliver on that commitment. The fact that May can't now deliver that commitment is not the fault of the EU.

But if you want to pass the whole thing off as a conspiracy you go right ahead.

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The £39 billion was the commitment that's agreed. We are now discussing the withdrawal agreement. It feels like a war the EU simply stonewalls and they are aided by many British politicians who want to stop brexit by undermining our negotiating position. To an extent they have succeeded. I do believe a deal will be done eventually but I feel it will be worse deal than had our politicians worked together for the good of Britain. No chance of that our politicians are a disgrace and completely out of touch with ordinary British people.


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