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Originally Posted By TiredReds
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Vish they don't even know who all the Islamists are never mind ask them to complete an opinion poll. Everything about Islam is opaque even Saudi there is a grey area between the government and the Saudi princes corruption is also rife


I was talking about Muslims/Arabs Not extremist, do you know any well enough to have a discussion about Islam or Saudi?


Islamists are the terms for muslim extemists ? I know one or two muslims in my home town I have never asked them anything more complicated than isnt this rain awful so I would not know their opinion on Saudi I suspect they would not have a clue


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More news on brexit apparently the 27 leaders have been summond tonight according to a strong rumour. The word on the street is May has caved in probably customs without an end date my guess. Would not bet against new election and David Davies as leader front runner. But I dont know obviously


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
More news on brexit apparently the 27 leaders have been summond tonight according to a strong rumour. The word on the street is May has caved in probably customs without an end date my guess. Would not bet against new election and David Davies as leader front runner. But I dont know obviously


If May has caved in (accepted reality) you are probably looking at a leadership contest and/ or an election.

The DUP will definitely end their agreement with the government.

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By TiredReds
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Vish they don't even know who all the Islamists are never mind ask them to complete an opinion poll. Everything about Islam is opaque even Saudi there is a grey area between the government and the Saudi princes corruption is also rife


I was talking about Muslims/Arabs Not extremist, do you know any well enough to have a discussion about Islam or Saudi?


Islamists are the terms for muslim extemists ? I know one or two muslims in my home town I have never asked them anything more complicated than isnt this rain awful so I would not know their opinion on Saudi I suspect they would not have a clue


Well, I know quite a few muslims, some friends and had Arab friends when I was studying, this is how I know. Lots of Muslims dont like the Saudi regime because they say that Saudis don't do enough for muslims, especially from the poorer countries and they instead throw money away on things prohibited by Islam.

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
More news on brexit apparently the 27 leaders have been summond tonight according to a strong rumour. The word on the street is May has caved in probably customs without an end date my guess. Would not bet against new election and David Davies as leader front runner. But I dont know obviously


It's not the 27 leaders, but the 27 EU ambassadors and it is getting very interesting indeed. I say a new election and another hung parliament.

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Originally Posted By TiredReds
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More news on brexit apparently the 27 leaders have been summond tonight according to a strong rumour. The word on the street is May has caved in probably customs without an end date my guess. Would not bet against new election and David Davies as leader front runner. But I dont know obviously


It's not the 27 leaders, but the 27 EU ambassadors and it is getting very interesting indeed. I say a new election and another hung parliament.


If we had another election I agree another hung parliment or small majority for conservatives would be the most likely result and I can't see how that would solve brexit any more than the existing government. There is also the question of who would be Tory leader. Too many problems here. Looking at labour if there is a deal why would they vote against it other than to create an election (which I agree is a reason) but in terms of brexit they would be voting for no deal and against their constituents. Because of this although it might be tight I think the government will win the parliment vote. It also looks like work in progress agreement on customs and the Irish border. Vish it's a bit unfair to correct me on the detail when this is breaking and fresh news coming out by the hour


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You must be a very sociable person Vish if you know the billions of Muslims in the world. Yes you may have a few friends of the Muslim faith but it's hard to see how you can extrapolate their collective view across all Muslims


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Latest news is the talks have broken down but I think it's a short term postponement big picture I think is they are very close it was always going to go to the wire that's the way these things work


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Originally Posted By EMP
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I must admit I don't know much about the Yemen conflict but had a read and I lost the will to live after a couple of minutes. It's not Saudi bombing kids for no reason other than they are bored or evil or both. It's a full scale civil war similar to Syria. Like all these conflicts in the Middle East there are multiple Islamic factions fighting one another to death with civilians caught in the middle. Nothing new here then. Thankfully Britain and the west are not involved in this one. However it seems the far left are doing all they can to make it our fault. And emp if you feel so strongly about this conflict from your cork social revolutionary bunker that you burst into tears in front of the tele then have some backbone instread of posting on koptalk go and help with the humanitarian work on the ground. That would impress me posting nonsense in your string vest surrounded by empty beer cans and half eaten pizzas is not impressive


I liked that bit! But he won't as it's way too comfy in the West that he hates so much to bother with that. He is off to Barcelona to make the world a better place though so I'll cut him some slack.


you both like that kinda ridicule , is it close to home or something?
I dont drink bty and rarely ever eat pizza


Well maybe you should have a bear and a slice of pizza. It might lighten you up a bit and stop you spouting so much bollox.

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Its not bollox its the only way the human race is gonna survive, and its not me concluding that, i listen and read the civil and human rights academics of the day.They are the ones flashing big warning signs about the direction we are going, we have to change. Martin L King, Howard Zinn, Edward Said, Sheldon Wolin, Chomsky these kinda people u should read, even Einstein warned we were heading for destruction . You may call it bollox but i reckon you just haven't looked at it properly , who do u read about social and civil issues?

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