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I am not defending anything Saudi is a nasty bit of work. However I fail to see how cutting off diplomatic relations will help matters china is also a nasty bit of work but we deal with them. Saudi also is the home of Islam which we are constantly told by the far west is the religion of peace and no threat to western societies. Let's say we cut off all relations with Saudi as I presume you want ? How is that going to play out with the large Muslim populations in Europe do we not have enough problems as it is ? Yes we may need to take action against Saudi but my understanding is we are likely to your anti christ president trump has already threatened that. And simply sending a link from a website does not make it true or in context but I agree Saudi is a nasty bit of work
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I am not defending anything Saudi is a nasty bit of work. However I fail to see how cutting off diplomatic relations will help matters china is also a nasty bit of work but we deal with them. Saudi also is the home of Islam which we are constantly told by the far west is the religion of peace and no threat to western societies. Let's say we cut off all relations with Saudi as I presume you want ? How is that going to play out with the large Muslim populations in Europe do we not have enough problems as it is ? Yes we may need to take action against Saudi but my understanding is we are likely to your anti christ president trump has already threatened that. And simply sending a link from a website does not make it true or in context but I agree Saudi is a nasty bit of work Fyi, the majority of Islamists don't like the Saudi regime
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fail to see how making a stand against evil will do anything ? You stop giving them weapons and actually work the UN and it will stop the killing.. this picking which evil to hate and which evil is on our side has to stop. We must empower the UN in all matters, the UN nearly always votes fairly. Its the evil money makers that veto the fairness
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Meanwhile back in Brexit lalaland I see that seasoned negotiator David Davis is putting his country first.
I blame Corbyn.
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If we weren't so linked to it I would have tuned out a year ago.
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I am not defending anything Saudi is a nasty bit of work. However I fail to see how cutting off diplomatic relations will help matters china is also a nasty bit of work but we deal with them. Saudi also is the home of Islam which we are constantly told by the far west is the religion of peace and no threat to western societies. Let's say we cut off all relations with Saudi as I presume you want ? How is that going to play out with the large Muslim populations in Europe do we not have enough problems as it is ? Yes we may need to take action against Saudi but my understanding is we are likely to your anti christ president trump has already threatened that. And simply sending a link from a website does not make it true or in context but I agree Saudi is a nasty bit of work Fyi, the majority of Islamists don't like the Saudi regime Really how come you know that ? But irrespective if the west turned against Saudi in a big way it's hard to see what we would gain or how it would help Yemen. Also with Yemen with all these Islamic mad conflicts there is no right or wrong no good or bad side we have seen what happens when the west interferes in these medeval tribal Islamic conflicts getting involved in Yemen would be lunacy. And with certainty insulting the home of Islam with Mecca would without any doubt set off Islamic populations in the west who would see it as a grave insult to Islam. We have enough trouble as it is
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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fail to see how making a stand against evil will do anything ? You stop giving them weapons and actually work the UN and it will stop the killing.. this picking which evil to hate and which evil is on our side has to stop. We must empower the UN in all matters, the UN nearly always votes fairly. Its the evil money makers that veto the fairness Nobody gives weapons to Saudi, US and UK make billions selling them, not easy to give up, helps balancing the budget big time.
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I am not defending anything Saudi is a nasty bit of work. However I fail to see how cutting off diplomatic relations will help matters china is also a nasty bit of work but we deal with them. Saudi also is the home of Islam which we are constantly told by the far west is the religion of peace and no threat to western societies. Let's say we cut off all relations with Saudi as I presume you want ? How is that going to play out with the large Muslim populations in Europe do we not have enough problems as it is ? Yes we may need to take action against Saudi but my understanding is we are likely to your anti christ president trump has already threatened that. And simply sending a link from a website does not make it true or in context but I agree Saudi is a nasty bit of work Fyi, the majority of Islamists don't like the Saudi regime
Really how come you know that ? But irrespective if the west turned against Saudi in a big way it's hard to see what we would gain or how it would help Yemen. Also with Yemen with all these Islamic mad conflicts there is no right or wrong no good or bad side we have seen what happens when the west interferes in these medeval tribal Islamic conflicts getting involved in Yemen would be lunacy. And with certainty insulting the home of Islam with Mecca would without any doubt set off Islamic populations in the west who would see it as a grave insult to Islam. We have enough trouble as it is Have you ever had Arab or muslim friends, do you even know an Arab? Seriously
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Vish they don't even know who all the Islamists are never mind ask them to complete an opinion poll. Everything about Islam is opaque even Saudi there is a grey area between the government and the Saudi princes corruption is also rife
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Vish they don't even know who all the Islamists are never mind ask them to complete an opinion poll. Everything about Islam is opaque even Saudi there is a grey area between the government and the Saudi princes corruption is also rife I was talking about Muslims/Arabs Not extremist, do you know any well enough to have a discussion about Islam or Saudi?
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