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van Gogh #611488 30/09/18 07:16 PM
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Sturridge doesn't press and that is a major problem in our system especially when the opponent is fresh and we need to defend from the front. I'm ok if Sturridge comes off the bench, his impact is much better. The only change I would put is to start with Keita and maybe Shaq as number ten against teams parking the bus. Fabinho I don't know, haven't watched him played.


I know he doesn't press, but it takes more than being good at pressing to earn a starting berth in a LFC side imo.

Neither of the front 3 should be safe from critisism with their current conversion rate.

When we clearly have a player on (goalscoring) fire, he just needs to play - at least until the other 3 up top start putting their shots away.

If we had a midfield trio on fire it would be hard to displace any of them to accomodate for Firmino there, but we haven't got that situation do we?

Milner, Wij and Hendo are too similar, which shows against top opposition. They all slow the play down tremendously, with too many touches on the ball, and being too defensive minded when we need to go forwards.

So in my world we need to make room for Sturridge for the time being. It's maybe not a long term solution, but we need to score goals - and he provides that!

Firmino can play in midfield and press from there if Klopp decides so.


Firmino was a number 10 before coming to LFC and only Klopp knows why he doesn't play him there, however, I think that if Sturridge is started regularly he will get injured fast, so he is great as a super sub, better he continues there

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Originally Posted By TiredReds
Firmino was a number 10 before coming to LFC and only Klopp knows why he doesn't play him there, however, I think that if Sturridge is started regularly he will get injured fast, so he is great as a super sub, better he continues there


Correct, but until the front 3 start firing again, we need a makeshift striker who actually scores.

Better to use Sturridge now when we need him and he is in form, and rest him later if he gets injured or the front 3 start working properly again - whichever comes first! laugh

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When Keita came on he looked good, he ran with the ball and is different to what Hendo/Wij/Milner offer, I think Klopp was just being very cautions as Chelsea's strength is in their midfield, so he wanted to make sure we had a strong working midfield to combat that, we still created chances against a strong Chelsea and with a misfiring front 3, so not all bad.

I want Henderson coming off annoyed, that shows his fight and determination, he knows he's under pressure and has Keita and Fabinho breathing down his neck for his place,

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Regardless of a player's skill set, Klopp picks the starting 11 and he makes the changes as the game progresses. Hendo/Wij/Milly in the middle is just woeful. Should never have started, particularly against this Chelsea side.

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Originally Posted By van Gogh
Originally Posted By TiredReds
Firmino was a number 10 before coming to LFC and only Klopp knows why he doesn't play him there, however, I think that if Sturridge is started regularly he will get injured fast, so he is great as a super sub, better he continues there


Correct, but until the front 3 start firing again, we need a makeshift striker who actually scores.

Better to use Sturridge now when we need him and he is in form, and rest him later if he gets injured or the front 3 start working properly again - whichever comes first! laugh


Better nurse him for him not to get injured but continues to score off the bench. Firmino won't be able to play a whole season alone and Solanke and Origi are not ready.

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I admit that Hendo does a lot of running and pressing which is good. The one thing that infuriates me is his cowardly hiding behind an opponent, afraid to receive the ball if there is a slight chance he may have to control and shield it.

Footballers should be hungry, no, greedy for the ball, not sheepishly filling space.

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Originally Posted By chesterville
I admit that Hendo does a lot of running and pressing which is good. The one thing that infuriates me is his cowardly hiding behind an opponent, afraid to receive the ball if there is a slight chance he may have to control and shield it.

Footballers should be hungry, no, greedy for the ball, not sheepishly filling space.


May be he is behind an opponent because he is supposed to defend more than attack. If he was not doing what Klopp wants he will be made aware immediately, I am sure and if not he will not be getting games, like Fabinho for example. The only issue I have with him is that he doesn't have the skills to handle difficult situations and that would have been ok if we had a creative player in the midfield. However, I think that Klopp has decided to be more defence minded than in previous seasons and nobody can deny that it's working. Last year we lost both at Spurs and Chelsea, don't understand what people are moaning about.

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People got to moan vish. Just imagine if we’d lost!

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Henderson hasn't changed. He's been the same player for years now.

His main problem is that milner and Wijnaldum have improved massively. Keita is a different beast and can only get better. Ox was brilliant before Injury and Fabinho has been brought in to protect the defence.

All this makes Henderson redundant. And he knows it.

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Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Henderson hasn't changed. He's been the same player for years now.

His main problem is that milner and Wijnaldum have improved massively. Keita is a different beast and can only get better. Ox was brilliant before Injury and Fabinho has been brought in to protect the defence.

All this makes Henderson redundant. And he knows it.


Henderson and Milner are not very different, Henderson was very good against PSG for example.

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