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All I know is what was on the side of a bus was a lie. I imagine that when we agree our deal we’ll still be paying into the eu as Norway do for example (something like 80% of the membership fee per head I think?) so the only way we’ll get that extra money is through taxes as the government has already said. As far as I can remember it said we can spend what we give to the EU on the NHS whats a lie about that ? It's perfectly possible. We don't what the deal is yet I doubt very much it will be a Norway type deal but let's see. As for lies no one told more than Osbourne and project fear which turned out to be entirely untrue. As chancellor he would have known it was not true which was why may sacked him as her first action as PM. But whatever who cares ? It's the future that matters and it's about time all sides concentrated on that and worked together for the benefit of the nation. I know I am naive expecting that
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Come on Stan. The people telling that yarn had no power to deliver what they were saying. It was a lie to fool the stupid into voting their way. They could just as easily said the public could have it back as a tax rebate or that it’d be spent on anything. It was propaganda to win votes and was never going to be delivered. I’m sure the remain side did the same sort of things but I don’t remember them pasting shitte on a bus?
As for who cares, all those who are going to be out of pocket for no reason based on some nuggets putting lies on the side of a bus who had no power to deliver what they were promising. Then to top it all off all those doing the lying have now fukked off into the wilderness to leave us all to it. Couldn’t make this shitte up.
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Come on Stan. The people telling that yarn had no power to deliver what they were saying. It was a lie to fool the stupid into voting their way. They could just as easily said the public could have it back as a tax rebate or that it’d be spent on anything. It was propaganda to win votes and was never going to be delivered. I’m sure the remain side did the same sort of things but I don’t remember them pasting shitte on a bus?
As for who cares, all those who are going to be out of pocket for no reason based on some nuggets putting lies on the side of a bus who had no power to deliver what they were promising. Then to top it all off all those doing the lying have now fukked off into the wilderness to leave us all to it. Couldn’t make this shitte up. The insanity of Brexit in a nutshell. We lied to you in order to get you to vote leave. But who cares?
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Both side lied or embellished the truth if you like. I suppose that's what politicians do. But surely to make leaving a little bit more plausible, it would've been nice to have someone who could actually deliver what they were promising i.e someone in power?
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Both side lied or embellished the truth if you like. I suppose that's what politicians do. But surely to make leaving a little bit more plausible, it would've been nice to have someone who could actually deliver what they were promising i.e someone in power? The problem with leave lying is that they then had to deliver on their lies. And that's when the fun began.
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Both side lied or embellished the truth if you like. I suppose that's what politicians do. But surely to make leaving a little bit more plausible, it would've been nice to have someone who could actually deliver what they were promising i.e someone in power? That would be david Cameron did he not publically promise (on several occasions) the government would deliver on people's choice. He was the leader of the serving government. He chose to resign on the morning after the vote. He was the one who allowed the vote my opinion he should have been prepared to deal with either option. That said I am glad he resigned when he did.
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Both side lied or embellished the truth if you like. I suppose that's what politicians do. But surely to make leaving a little bit more plausible, it would've been nice to have someone who could actually deliver what they were promising i.e someone in power? That would be david Cameron did he not publically promise (on several occasions) the government would deliver on people's choice. He was the leader of the serving government. He chose to resign on the morning after the vote. He was the one who allowed the vote my opinion he should have been prepared to deal with either option. That said I am glad he resigned when he did. He resigned to screw Boris over. Boris' plan all along was to pick up the pieces win or lose. Don't delude yourself that he actually believed in what he was selling. Unfortunately for him Cameron had the measure of him as do most of the British public.
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Both side lied or embellished the truth if you like. I suppose that's what politicians do. But surely to make leaving a little bit more plausible, it would've been nice to have someone who could actually deliver what they were promising i.e someone in power? The problem with leave lying is that they then had to deliver on their lies. And that's when the fun began. They weren't in a position to deliver on it though. Why were people so stupid to think that they would be?
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Both side lied or embellished the truth if you like. I suppose that's what politicians do. But surely to make leaving a little bit more plausible, it would've been nice to have someone who could actually deliver what they were promising i.e someone in power? The problem with leave lying is that they then had to deliver on their lies. And that's when the fun began. They weren't in a position to deliver on it though. Why were people so stupid to think that they would be? I think that's a question you would need to ask a brexiteer.
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Both side lied or embellished the truth if you like. I suppose that's what politicians do. But surely to make leaving a little bit more plausible, it would've been nice to have someone who could actually deliver what they were promising i.e someone in power? That would be david Cameron did he not publically promise (on several occasions) the government would deliver on people's choice. He was the leader of the serving government. He chose to resign on the morning after the vote. He was the one who allowed the vote my opinion he should have been prepared to deal with either option. That said I am glad he resigned when he did. Having all information both internally and the EU, only somebody crazy could be prepared to deal with leave. Look at May, she came up with a half in half out plan and nobody is happy. She can choose a side but her party is divided in more or less half, therefore no majority. What a mess
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