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Must win game this or it's title challenge over. I get your sarcasm wilki but being able to beat brighton at home is standard fayre for a champion elect team. It is indeed a must win..and will win ..game though. Like I say first 4 games imperative to win..2 down 2 to go... 5 nil lfc.Brighton no match for lfc even if they beat man utd. What sarcasm? It IS a must win game or it's season over. Just dealing in facts here.
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The gap between the likes of City and Chelsea and the mid to lower teams is as big as its ever been. The problem with this is that it’s very unlikely these teams will ever take points off them so you get a situation that if Chelsea or City go more than 5 or 6 points ahead of you at any time during the season then you have virtually no chance of pulling that back even if you win your own games.
I can remember a League Championship winning team could afford to lose about five games in a season sometimes six, now its half that you be lucky to win a league losing more than three or four.
yep, that about sums up the situation from then to now. It depends on ones ambition how much tolerance you'd extend to be beaten at home by Brighton. If you want to win the league then you can have very little tolerance for dropping points next Saturday.
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This is a must win game because we are at our freshest and the squad is almost at full compliment. If we start dropping points now it will be hard to make them up when we are playing 2 times a week with CL, LC & FA cup games are coming thick and fast.
In the premier League era we've only ever played against Brighton the home (w4v0) & away (w1v5) games of last season. We have played an FA Cup game @home in 2012 (w6v1) and a Carling Cup game in 2011 away (w1v2) against Brighton.
After their heroics v Man Utd it's only natural Brighton will be feeling good about themselves and it's important we do not underestimate them. However at the same time it's important we do not lose sight of the fact we are at home and this squad of players is a damned sight better than the squad we had last season when we mullered Brighton both home & away.
We shouldn't be trying to over complicate things by trying to embed players when we do not need to. Consistency in this league is King! Klopp should tinker when games are coming thick and fast and we have a cushion. Get the games won then we can look to the bench unless injuries / bans force our hand.
Same 11 start, get the goals cushion then look to bring in the likes of Fabinho, Shaqiri and Sturridge.
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The gap between the likes of City and Chelsea and the mid to lower teams is as big as its ever been. The problem with this is that it’s very unlikely these teams will ever take points off them so you get a situation that if Chelsea or City go more than 5 or 6 points ahead of you at any time during the season then you have virtually no chance of pulling that back even if you win your own games.
I can remember a League Championship winning team could afford to lose about five games in a season sometimes six, now its half that you be lucky to win a league losing more than three or four.
Back once again! You can't keep putting Chelsea up there with City. They're in a mess. We lost just 5 games last season, 2 less than Utd and Spurs, but had 12 draws which was our problem. I'm not sure City will be quite so far ahead this season and repeat last seasons record. That's not to say we want to be dropping points at this very early stage but it's not the end of the world if we do. But we'll win this week. Might not be a big score again as we still look a little rusty but we will have enough to get past them.
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This is a must win game because we are at our freshest and the squad is almost at full compliment. If we start dropping points now it will be hard to make them up when we are playing 2 times a week with CL, LC & FA cup games are coming thick and fast.
In the premier League era we've only ever played against Brighton the home (w4v0) & away (w1v5) games of last season. We have played an FA Cup game @home in 2012 (w6v1) and a Carling Cup game in 2011 away (w1v2) against Brighton.
After their heroics v Man Utd it's only natural Brighton will be feeling good about themselves and it's important we do not underestimate them. However at the same time it's important we do not lose sight of the fact we are at home and this squad of players is a damned sight better than the squad we had last season when we mullered Brighton both home & away.
We shouldn't be trying to over complicate things by trying to embed players when we do not need to. Consistency in this league is King! Klopp should tinker when games are coming thick and fast and we have a cushion. Get the games won then we can look to the bench unless injuries / bans force our hand.
Same 11 start, get the goals cushion then look to bring in the likes of Fabinho, Shaqiri and Sturridge.
I agree Pickles... I am a firm believer in always picking your best 11 with only injury or loss of form displacing a player.Last couple of years lfc played weaker teams only to go out of the cups early then concentrated on the champions league sacrificing results in the league which should have been won but were not. Rotating for the sake of it is not good.
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Start with a winning team and change it only when needed.
Looking forward to seeing Shaq get some game-time, I think he'll be a big player for us later in the season, and Fabinho too. Klopp's transfer record is unlike any I've seen so he's virtually gauranteed to be a world beater.
Another clean sheet would be cool. Despite enjoying some incredible football last season, I'm really enjoying watching the new 'solid' LFC. It's done my nerves during matches the world of good, especially now Karius isn't playing.
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Sturridge should start, I'm really worried about Firmino he has looked tired out there. Sturridge is on form and should start ahead of him.
Back to Back World Champions baby!
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I agree that this is a "must-win-game". Yes it is a long season, but our competitors are previous EPL winners, and we are not and they WILL BE WINNING these early season games. No more excuses. We have to match them with results from the starting gate.
These cynical quips about it being a long season and one result does not make a season are rediculous. How far behind Citeh did we finish last season?
Enough of the excuses. Every match is a "must win". I want to see us leading the pack and not just watching.
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I'm very confident of a home win here, as others said they'll probably park the proverbial, so an early goal could lead to a feast, on the other hand it could get nervy if we fail to break them down, so a win isn't a given but should be forthcoming all the same, I'd start Sturridge.
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I think it would be a mistake to start Sturridge over Firmino.
Granted Firmino has not been to his usual standard however benching him for Sturridge will change the dynamic of the team. Sturridge is not going to drop back, chase and harry like Firmino and if he does try to, he'll inevitably get injured sooner rather than later.
We simply can't trust Sturridge whilst we have better options available. Best to get games won and then look to bring Sturridge on when he doesn't have to run and press players. Whilst the team is doing well it will only be a matter of time before Firmino gets back into the swing of things.
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