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Oh dear

So you feel it's all made up then, right?

Its not made up its polls (estimates) when these give a story they want you to hear they are publicised when the poll gives the wrong answer its dropped. Ask yourself this who is paying for all these polls and why ? could it be "open britain" funded by soros by any chance?

I have another thing for you remainers to think about on the young old thing. In 1975 I was young I was too young to vote then but old enough not to be a kid. I have no recollection of what I thought about joining the EEC back then. More than likely nothing mopeds, girls and cider was probably more interesting. But I like many older people have had 40 years of the EU and we dont like what we see. If the younger people today dont like not being in the EU then they can campaign in the future to re-join.

So only the remain side make up stats. The leave side are whiter than white. When you are confronted with anything that disproves your argument just say it's made up or all part of a remain conspiracy. Brexiteer in denial anyone?

Again, I will ask you to send us a link that outlines even one of the brexiteers plans for a successful Britain after Brexit. Who even champions Brexit now. Farage ran away, Johnson and Davis threw in the towel and Gove has totally betrayed the Brexit dream. You are taking a leap into the unknown with no plan. Strong and stable anyone?

So what is it you want ? Do you want Britain to cancel brexit ? The plan for brexit is online and on the chequers agreement rightly or wrongly the government believe that will minimise disruption and provide a better future. You may disagree that's democracy. I also think you need to ponder that because there is a link on some newspaper site or private website it means it's reality. One day you will realise it's just someone's opinion normally a journalist with an agenda

The Chequers Agreement is a remainers Brexit plan. How do we know, because Davis and Johnson resigned because of it.

So there still hasn't been a feasible, workable alternative put forward by any brexiteer. If I was a brexiteer I would feel betrayed alright, but by those who lead me down the path and then jumped ship.

Johnson and Davis have resigned, Gove has changed camps and Farage looks forward to his EU pension. Fox meanwhile has finally realised that negotiating the easiest trade deal in the history of mankind may have been a tad trickier than he first thought. Davis's replacement lasted less than a fortnight and May (a remainer)is now negotiating directly with the EU.

Convince me as a remainer, how I will be better off after Britain leaves the EU. Show me how Britain will proper, how people will have more money in their pockets and how the nation will have a host of free trade deals (Fox couldn't negotiate the easiest trade deal in history)

The new darling of Brexit JRM (that's Jacob with the new businesses in Dublin, part of the nasty EU) estimates that it may be 50 years before Britain sees the benefit of Brexit. I don't remember that on the side of a campaign bus. How many brexiteers are happy to wait 50 years to possibly be better off. Jacob won't have to wait 50 years because Brexit won't affect his future as he will continue to have a foot in both camps. Yet he is telling you and fellow brexiteers that there must be a complete break from the EU.

Convince me Stan, tell me I've got it all wrong. I want to be convinced.

I could put an argument for why its best for britain to leave the EU but frankly why should I that was decided over two years ago. I have no idea whether chequers is a remain plan or a brexiteer plan and I am not in the slightest interested in that childish notion. British people voted to leave the EU over two years ago the last two governments were elected on the basis of implementing that decision. Chequers is their route to doing so. I am not entirely happy with it but providing no more major backsliding I can live with it. Shaggy you think leaving the EU is a bad thing fair enough thats a valid position but unfortunetly for you like a united ireland the majority disagree with you. That is reality and no amount of links is going to change that I am afraid

So not one answer Stan.

You have just admitted that you are supporting the Chequers Agreement even though you don't know if it's a remainer plan or a Brexit plan. A man of conviction I see.

I'm not disputing the result of the vote. I'm questioning the lack of a plan from the people who delivered the result.

You can't offer a brexiteer Brexit plan because it doesn't exist. How mad is that.

Basically any Brexit will do, as long as there's a Brexit, even a remain Brexit will do. .

That's a solid plan. The only way is up.

Shaggy if you think I am going to argue the merits or otherwise of brexit a debate we had at great length two years ago you are sadly mistaken. What the hell a brexiteers exit plan and a remainers exit plan is I have no idea nor do I wish to find out. As explained on many occasions to you I am not a fan of the chequers agreement but given the politics and Mays lack of a majority Its probably the best pragmatic option. I have actually read every page of the chequers agreement and I can't find that much I can't live with provided it means what it says and doesn't backslide. I sometimes wonder whether I am writing in English or swahelli you don't seem to grasp what I am saying.

Stan you should be a politician. Plenty of hot air but not one answer.