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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
A no deal would cause a ruckus in parliament but I don't think you understood my post in fact you rarely understand anything not wishing to be rude but anything that's not binary you struggle with shaggy.

Parliament would have to have a majority vote to in effect stop brexit altogether assuming that was achieved every EU country would unanimously have to agree to stop article 50. That's both EU and international law.


Above is possible but That's a lot of ifs and buts and although the vote might be tight I can't see MP,s voting to stop brexit altogether especially as the current act of parliment just voted in clearly allows for no deal. As for a general election there is no way at the moment the Tories would call one because they are in turmoil may is weak and they would most likely lose it would be suicide. It's either deal or no deal there is no other alternative.


It's either deal or no deal, there is no other alternative - that's ground breaking Stan.

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I don't think people understand the act of Parliament just passed. Yes there could be another referendum yes they could delay article fifty. But the politics to that would be massive I also don't think you can take it for granted all 27 countries would agree and how long would it all take ? 6 months ? A year ? Just to decide on article 50 nothing is ever quick in the EU. I just think it's a none starter this is it a deal is agreed or we go out without a deal. As for another election if it's no deal the Tories would be simply insane to lead it with May. Hence there would have to be another leadership election there is not enough time to do that now. Again not viable. My guess is a deal will be done (or not but most likely done) then may steps down Tory leadership contest and maybe a general election next year after we are out the EU. I cannot see any other scenario


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
I don't think people understand the act of Parliament just passed. Yes there could be another referendum yes they could delay article fifty. But the politics to that would be massive I also don't think you can take it for granted all 27 countries would agree and how long would it all take ? 6 months ? A year ? Just to decide on article 50 nothing is ever quick in the EU. I just think it's a none starter this is it a deal is agreed or we go out without a deal. As for another election if it's no deal the Tories would be simply insane to lead it with May. Hence there would have to be another leadership election there is not enough time to do that now. Again not viable. My guess is a deal will be done (or not but most likely done) then may steps down Tory leadership contest and maybe a general election next year after we are out the EU. I cannot see any other scenario


I think there would be a Canada type trade deal, the EU wants it and hard Brexiters. Businesses (big) don't want it and there is the Irish border problem with it. I think there won't be any border in Ireland but either a border on mainland EU ports or ROI takes the responsibility of applying tariffs for 3rd party goods from the UK to mainland EU, through ROI. The big winner in this would be ROI as they would benefit from trade deals from both the EU and UK, which won't be a problem I think, given the size of their economy. We will then see what the likes of Airbus and BMW do. That said the Hammonds etc won't be happy because of the passporting rights for financial services (though they have proposed a workable solution in the Chequers agreement), neither the younger generation as they won't be able to travel and work freely in Europe. So still happy days ahead.

That said, the trade deal won't be negotiated now but over the 2 years of the transition period, by then, a lot of things would have happened in UK politics.

Still interesting soap and I hope the price of petrol with the slide of the GBP, is not hurting too much.

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Don’t get me started on the price of petrol vish! It’s steadied a little bit is still nearly 20p a litre more than before brexit at £1.30. Not good. Still, I’m moving jobs soon and get a company car so won’t need to worry too much soon grin

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Don’t get me started on the price of petrol vish! It’s steadied a little bit is still nearly 20p a litre more than before brexit at £1.30. Not good. Still, I’m moving jobs soon and get a company car so won’t need to worry too much soon grin


Good for you. The GBP plunged again last week despite interest rate rise, so petrol price will increase again.

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Yeah I know. I think they’ve still frozen the duty on it but it’s still going to go up. Pretty shitte that people could be priced out of getting to work in some rural areas that don’t have good public transport links. Some small petrol stations charge the earth. I’ve seen up to £1.50 a litre.

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Oil price is down to the trade sanctions on Lybia..


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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Don’t get me started on the price of petrol vish! It’s steadied a little bit is still nearly 20p a litre more than before brexit at £1.30. Not good. Still, I’m moving jobs soon and get a company car so won’t need to worry too much soon grin


It might also be something to do with crude oil price but let's not let that get in the way yes the petrol price is entirely to do with brexit so let's cancel brexit then


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Vish you said the young won't be able to travel in Europe whys that ? Will the old be able to travel. Before we joined the EU people could freely travel in Europe without a visa you just needed a passport as now. Are the EU going to ban British people ? Have they told the Spanish and Greek tourist resorts ? As for working in the EU and Vise versa providing you have a job and the skills it's no problem. I must re-read the chequers agreement there is obviously a bit you have seen that I have missed


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Don’t get me started on the price of petrol vish! It’s steadied a little bit is still nearly 20p a litre more than before brexit at £1.30. Not good. Still, I’m moving jobs soon and get a company car so won’t need to worry too much soon grin


It might also be something to do with crude oil price but let's not let that get in the way yes the petrol price is entirely to do with brexit so let's cancel brexit then


Of course it’s to do with the oil prices. But it’s also down to the FACT that since brexit the pound is weak against the dollar. I’m sure that oil prices aren’t as high as they were last time we were paying this much for petrol.

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