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Re public figures yes they should take care what they say. But we should not put ourselves in a position where politicians are afraid to address contravershal issues for fear of an offence circus. That harms our democracy do we want all politicians to be robots and offend no one ? Offending is not necessarily a bad thing either sometimes things need to be called out in straight language if someone is offended so be it. What Johnson said might have been clumsy but it was relevant and correct and he did say the burka should not be banned (which is the case in Europe) which is something which is being forgotten in this media frenzy.

That's the second time in a week I have proved you were lying.

Firstly it was the stupid Irish remark which you denied posting. When I reposted what you had said you then pathetically tried to explain it away rather than man up and apologise.

Yesterday you accused me of referring to protestants / loyalists as subhuman. I asked you to provide proof to support your claim, not surprisingly you have failed to produce any posts and accept that non exist. Again you have failed to apologise.

I will let other people on here draw their own conclusions.

You really must stop lying Stan, you are now showing yourself up on a regular basis.

It is extremely difficult to debate with someone who ignores facts and regularly lies to support their own views or to undermine others.

Shaggy you really are making yourself look stupid or even more stupid than normal you can't deny you are an Irish republican and for years have been expressing small minded sectarian bile British soldiers are terrorists was one of the more delightful thoughts you have expressed. For the record on the centotaphe in my town are the names of good men who died stopping you idiots from killing one another. The lunatics were at it again the other week you are one half of that murderous divide the good half you might say in my opinion extremists from both sides are off their head. Grown men killing one another over something that happened 400 years ago. To be then lectured by a man full of mindless hatred of others on racism of all things takes some swallowing. If you want to be that person that's your business but don't lecture ordinary people look at what you are and reflect

Jeez Stan,you need to smoke something.

Seriously Stan, stop embarrassing yourself.

I am not far off the mark though am I ?

i can tell through the forum deep down shaggy is a decent person as an individual but there is this wild stuff and an underlying hatred of people because of who they are, different. That to my mind is racisim or something like it. I don't buy the sins of 400 years ago, on the British mainland back then was a civil war. Where I live some whole villages (on the losing side) were put to the sword and houses burnt down. Terrible but we got over it and moved on now today those villages live side by side and most inhabitants probably could tell you nothing about the civil war. It's ancient history bad things happened the further back you go the worse it was. Societies evolve but maybe some need longer to do it.

Get all that hate out Stan.

The burka is not the issue, thats a sensitive complex agruement...the issue is Boris is using it to be racist an appeal to the far right fascists which has come to power in the west again. The current state of affairs is so ugly. Trump and his Fox watching friends are trying to start a race war..it has the potential to be very violent..its like fecking going back to civil right protestors times..WTF .. the UK is screwed if Boris gets in , which i am 100% certain he will.

I don’t think Boris will get in emp. I don’t know anyone who thinks he’s anything but a fukking idiot and I’m not sure the majority of the torries are stupid enough to vote him in. It would be suicide for you he party as it would give labour a land slide. I don’t want Corbyn in as I think he and his seventies throwback policies would ruin us but I’d vote for him over Boris any day.

The Burka is horrendous,i find it a backward step for women in this country why would or should women endorse it.

Women have just spent a hundred years at least freeing ourselves from hiding behind long skirts so men cant see us why should we feel we have to go back to that just because of some warped view that 1st a women cant be liberated if men can see her or worse that most men in this country for instance are so out of control they cant be trusted or allowed to see women.

If i were a man i would be offended that some women suggest they feel liberated by being covered against mens eyes as if all men are uncontrollable, for me its more a symbol of sexual suppression than liberation,its a shame some women don't cry out about women in other countries being abused for not covering up rather than feeling offended for being asked to uncover themselves in this western country,women who want to dress modestly are capable of doing so without being covered from head to toe.

Im not saying women cant be too careful against attack here but lets name that for what it is,that would be sheer violence towards women which we all know isnt sexual.

Can we all feel offended because adverts of women in Bikini's were taken down, i have the right to look at those if i want to don't i? apparently not in London at least.

Normally i would say each to their own but i would refuse to cover up to that degree as i feel its a slippery slope for women.
If men don't want men looking at their wives maybe we should provide men with blind folds,will they go for that i wonder?