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Michael barnier has apparently announced he is improving the EU,s offer on the Irish border. Well there's a surprise !!!

Also some woman from sein fein has said they should have a referendum on a United ireland as if it was a threat. Go for it girl and I hope you win ! People in Northern Ireland get more services per head than the rest of the UK and almost their entire economy is public sector jobs HMRC have a very big complex in Belfast. I am sure mainland Britain would be delighted to have those jobs especially the poorer areas likewise public services. We don't know how brexit will turn out but it's a certainty Northern Ireland would be massively worse off with the republic. However some republicans might say so what ? I would rather have independence than economic things. I can respect that point of view. However I believe there is no way NI would vote to leave the UK obviously the unionists would not want it and I feel sure many Catholics when seeing the alternative would think twice. But whatever it would not bother me nor most people in Britain. I am sick of hearing what NI thinks with regard to brexit how many live there ? One million ? Two million ? There are 66 million in Britain it's about time we listened to what they think


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Michael barnier has apparently announced he is improving the EU,s offer on the Irish border. Well there's a surprise !!!

Also some woman from sein fein has said they should have a referendum on a United ireland as if it was a threat. Go for it girl and I hope you win ! People in Northern Ireland get more services per head than the rest of the UK and almost their entire economy is public sector jobs HMRC have a very big complex in Belfast. I am sure mainland Britain would be delighted to have those jobs especially the poorer areas likewise public services. We don't know how brexit will turn out but it's a certainty Northern Ireland would be massively worse off with the republic. However some republicans might say so what ? I would rather have independence than economic things. I can respect that point of view. However I believe there is no way NI would vote to leave the UK obviously the unionists would not want it and I feel sure many Catholics when seeing the alternative would think twice. But whatever it would not bother me nor most people in Britain. I am sick of hearing what NI thinks with regard to brexit how many live there ? One million ? Two million ? There are 66 million in Britain it's about time we listened to what they think


The EU never had an issue to do a Canada type trade deal with the UK if UK didn't want to be in the customs union, however, EU's problem has always been the Irish border. UK business however do not want a border and May is trying her luck with the Chequers proposal, ie, a different jurisdiction but without a border, this doesn't work in principle.

My feeling is that the EU will propose a Canada type trade deal without a border in Ireland but a border on mainland Europe. This will however mean a border between ROI and Europe, I don't know how disruptive that would be to ROI business. It will definitely be very disruptive to the like of Airbus, BMW etc.

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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Michael barnier has apparently announced he is improving the EU,s offer on the Irish border. Well there's a surprise !!!

Also some woman from sein fein has said they should have a referendum on a United ireland as if it was a threat. Go for it girl and I hope you win ! People in Northern Ireland get more services per head than the rest of the UK and almost their entire economy is public sector jobs HMRC have a very big complex in Belfast. I am sure mainland Britain would be delighted to have those jobs especially the poorer areas likewise public services. We don't know how brexit will turn out but it's a certainty Northern Ireland would be massively worse off with the republic. However some republicans might say so what ? I would rather have independence than economic things. I can respect that point of view. However I believe there is no way NI would vote to leave the UK obviously the unionists would not want it and I feel sure many Catholics when seeing the alternative would think twice. But whatever it would not bother me nor most people in Britain. I am sick of hearing what NI thinks with regard to brexit how many live there ? One million ? Two million ? There are 66 million in Britain it's about time we listened to what they think


And yet you have no bother with 10 DUP loonies leading your government around by the nose.

Brexit is so attractive to people in N. Ireland that they voted against it in the referendum. But you just ignore facts as usual.

You are making all the right brexiteer noises at the moment but as usual you offer neither solutions or a plan for moving forward after Brexit.

For many Brexiteers including you, it has become Brexit at any cost.

Nice to see your anti Irish bigotry raising its head again.

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Plenty of anti British bigotry from you shaggy but given you are a hard line republican I guess that's in your genes. One question ? Should there be a new referendum on a United ireland as the president of sein fein wants assuming the republican side won the referendum do you think the vote should be respected and implemented in full ?


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Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Michael barnier has apparently announced he is improving the EU,s offer on the Irish border. Well there's a surprise !!!

Also some woman from sein fein has said they should have a referendum on a United ireland as if it was a threat. Go for it girl and I hope you win ! People in Northern Ireland get more services per head than the rest of the UK and almost their entire economy is public sector jobs HMRC have a very big complex in Belfast. I am sure mainland Britain would be delighted to have those jobs especially the poorer areas likewise public services. We don't know how brexit will turn out but it's a certainty Northern Ireland would be massively worse off with the republic. However some republicans might say so what ? I would rather have independence than economic things. I can respect that point of view. However I believe there is no way NI would vote to leave the UK obviously the unionists would not want it and I feel sure many Catholics when seeing the alternative would think twice. But whatever it would not bother me nor most people in Britain. I am sick of hearing what NI thinks with regard to brexit how many live there ? One million ? Two million ? There are 66 million in Britain it's about time we listened to what they think


The EU never had an issue to do a Canada type trade deal with the UK if UK didn't want to be in the customs union, however, EU's problem has always been the Irish border. UK business however do not want a border and May is trying her luck with the Chequers proposal, ie, a different jurisdiction but without a border, this doesn't work in principle.

My feeling is that the EU will propose a Canada type trade deal without a border in Ireland but a border on mainland Europe. This will however mean a border between ROI and Europe, I don't know how disruptive that would be to ROI business. It will definitely be very disruptive to the like of Airbus, BMW etc.


You may be right and that could work no solution is without its downsides including staying in the EU. The country and business will always adapt


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Michael barnier has apparently announced he is improving the EU,s offer on the Irish border. Well there's a surprise !!!

Also some woman from sein fein has said they should have a referendum on a United ireland as if it was a threat. Go for it girl and I hope you win ! People in Northern Ireland get more services per head than the rest of the UK and almost their entire economy is public sector jobs HMRC have a very big complex in Belfast. I am sure mainland Britain would be delighted to have those jobs especially the poorer areas likewise public services. We don't know how brexit will turn out but it's a certainty Northern Ireland would be massively worse off with the republic. However some republicans might say so what ? I would rather have independence than economic things. I can respect that point of view. However I believe there is no way NI would vote to leave the UK obviously the unionists would not want it and I feel sure many Catholics when seeing the alternative would think twice. But whatever it would not bother me nor most people in Britain. I am sick of hearing what NI thinks with regard to brexit how many live there ? One million ? Two million ? There are 66 million in Britain it's about time we listened to what they think


The EU never had an issue to do a Canada type trade deal with the UK if UK didn't want to be in the customs union, however, EU's problem has always been the Irish border. UK business however do not want a border and May is trying her luck with the Chequers proposal, ie, a different jurisdiction but without a border, this doesn't work in principle.

My feeling is that the EU will propose a Canada type trade deal without a border in Ireland but a border on mainland Europe. This will however mean a border between ROI and Europe, I don't know how disruptive that would be to ROI business. It will definitely be very disruptive to the like of Airbus, BMW etc.


You may be right and that could work no solution is without its downsides including staying in the EU. The country and business will always adapt


Business will adapt but doesn't mean they will be in a better place.

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I think business will be better post brexit but some may not agree with me there are millions of opinions I think Corbyn would be an economic catastrophe but some people think the economy will boom under Corbyn. We live in a democracy and the majority opinion prevails.


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Plenty of anti British bigotry from you shaggy but given you are a hard line republican I guess that's in your genes. One question ? Should there be a new referendum on a United ireland as the president of sein fein wants assuming the republican side won the referendum do you think the vote should be respected and implemented in full ?


No denial of what you really are Stan , just more mud slinging.

If we had a referendum we wouldn't ask someone who campaigned to remain to implement it for us. On the subject, we had an all Ireland vote in 1918 which resulted in an absolute landslide for Sinn Fein. Did Britain respect that result. I give you N. Ireland, created under threat of all out war.

We also wouldn't be making ludicrous demands of 27 other sovereign nations.

Hope this helps.

Any sign of those plans at all?

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Originally Posted By Shaggydog
Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Plenty of anti British bigotry from you shaggy but given you are a hard line republican I guess that's in your genes. One question ? Should there be a new referendum on a United ireland as the president of sein fein wants assuming the republican side won the referendum do you think the vote should be respected and implemented in full ?


No denial of what you really are Stan , just more mud slinging.

If we had a referendum we wouldn't ask someone who campaigned to remain to implement it for us. On the subject, we had an all Ireland vote in 1918 which resulted in an absolute landslide for Sinn Fein. Did Britain respect that result. I give you N. Ireland, created under threat of all out war.

We also wouldn't be making ludicrous demands of 27 other sovereign nations.

Hope this helps.

Any sign of those plans at all?


1918 ???? Oh I see fairly recent then ? No one lives in the past quite like an Irish republican - can't stop long I am just going to enlist to fight World War One - hope I am not too late ?


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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
Plenty of anti British bigotry from you shaggy but given you are a hard line republican I guess that's in your genes. One question ? Should there be a new referendum on a United ireland as the president of sein fein wants assuming the republican side won the referendum do you think the vote should be respected and implemented in full ?


No denial of what you really are Stan , just more mud slinging.

If we had a referendum we wouldn't ask someone who campaigned to remain to implement it for us. On the subject, we had an all Ireland vote in 1918 which resulted in an absolute landslide for Sinn Fein. Did Britain respect that result. I give you N. Ireland, created under threat of all out war.

We also wouldn't be making ludicrous demands of 27 other sovereign nations.

Hope this helps.

Any sign of those plans at all?


1918 ???? Oh I see fairly recent then ? No one lives in the past quite like an Irish republican - can't stop long I am just going to enlist to fight World War One - hope I am not too late ?


From a man who claims britain owns Gibraltar because it was given to them in 1713.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

Also I notice you made no attempt to dispute anything I stated.

Brexit plan due anything soon?

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