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It would also be legally very difficult to have a muilple choice referendum any more than a binary choice has problems with the maths and legality the so called people's vote which the small number of hard core remainer politicians want is probably not possible they would have to re-run the referendum again which would be crazy. By the way leave would win again by a mile

I think I would prefer WTO the hard border is totally overplayed in Northern Ireland there is already a hard border now not physical but there are different tax systems. The same would happen under WTO the trade between the republic and Northern Ireland is peanuts. If there are tariffs and short term disruption within the uk as a whole so be it. If you want to know what I would do I would have activated article 50 within a month of the vote. However it's not up to me Unfortunetly. Because barnier has rejected something does not mean negotiations have stopped quite the opposite 80% has been agreed and talks are going on quite aggressively my feeling is a deal will be ageed I am just worried I won't like it. If not then no deal. There is also something else QE has finished or slowed down and growth is slowing in Europe and the UK and the EU has massive problems with Italy and the euro so big they could bring the EU down within months. The eu also will be in massive trouble if Britain withholds the £39b if we leave without a deal the eu is insolvent. Another referendum would kill our democracy forever nothing would ever be trusted again and I think there would be civil unrest. There is also not time for another referendum they take years to prepare legally and constitutionally. The best outcome for me (given where we stand) is a so called soft brexit but keeping the red lines (which I understand to be the governments position) and amend occordingly over time via parliament when we are no longer EU members.

You can also just have 2 rounds as some do it for presidential elections. Otherwise how do you go about with the parliament not getting a majority, just crash out?

We can't change our constitution to suit a few remainers. A multiple choice referendum there is some debate whether it would be legal. Say there are four options 26% of the voters could win politically it would be a farce. It's also prone to being influenced by action groups given there would be a very low turnout. It would be a farce. The only option would be another in or out referendum because they didn't accept the first answer again completely crazy. Plus either option would take years referendums have to be done strictly to parliament law. Thinking about it today there are only three options

1- we agree a deal that respects the referendum and works for the EU and UK.
2- we go onto WTO
3- we do a straightforward Canada type deal.

I don't believe any other option is possible. There is talk of a chequers minus minus deal however parliament (100 brexit Tory MP,s) would reject that plus the Tories would not be elected ever again. So that's out another referendum is out so that leaves only those three. As for the Irish border well they have allowed it to be a pawn of the EU and hence they will have to take what comes.

We can't change our constitution to suit a few remainers. A multiple choice referendum there is some debate whether it would be legal. Say there are four options 26% of the voters could win politically it would be a farce. It's also prone to being influenced by action groups given there would be a very low turnout. It would be a farce. The only option would be another in or out referendum because they didn't accept the first answer again completely crazy. Plus either option would take years referendums have to be done strictly to parliament law. Thinking about it today there are only three options

1- we agree a deal that respects the referendum and works for the EU and UK.
2- we go onto WTO
3- we do a straightforward Canada type deal.

I don't believe any other option is possible. There is talk of a chequers minus minus deal however parliament (100 brexit Tory MP,s) would reject that plus the Tories would not be elected ever again. So that's out another referendum is out so that leaves only those three. As for the Irish border well they have allowed it to be a pawn of the EU and hence they will have to take what comes.

It's fine everyone saying everything is Britains problem and then dissing every solution Britain comes up with. That can only go on for so long we are running out of time fast. The Irish and the EU will either have to start working with Britain or we go out without a deal. Simple as that. And the biggest losers will be the Republic of Ireland

And you think everything will be fine when/if the paramilitary in NI decide to knock down the border as they preferred to be Europeans rather than a colony of England

That would be bad but we can't be ruled by paramilitaries. The majority of people in Northern Ireland want to be part of the UK thats a fact. The idiots were fighting and throwing petrol bombs the other week one lady on the news said the average age was 15 or 16 whom had never been born in the troubles. From my reading there are some on the republican side who don't accept the good Friday agreement. So brexit or no brexit Unfortunetly there will always be trouble in that blighted area. My own personal view is I would be happy to see it part of Ireland but the republic don't want it either because they would be responsible to keeping the two sides away from one another's throats. And given Ireland has almost no military they would be incapable of that.