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I was born in the wagon of a travellin' show
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Papa would do whatever he could
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Originally Posted By Vicdamone
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I honestly think if he learns to play unselfishly, and somehow stops getting injured all the time, he has what it takes to be a quality number 10. I agree he hasn’t got the pace anymore to be as effective playing off the shoulder. And he was never a Kane/shearer like poacher. He has quality in that left foot though and he actually does have an eye for a pass when he chooses to look for it.


So he gets injured on purpose?


Never implied that he did. He does often get injured, if he can somehow manage to avoid that, is what I said.

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Originally Posted By redordead13
I'll just say it sounded mighty racist then.


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Originally Posted By ghostgoal
Originally Posted By Vicdamone
Originally Posted By ghostgoal
I honestly think if he learns to play unselfishly, and somehow stops getting injured all the time, he has what it takes to be a quality number 10. I agree he hasn’t got the pace anymore to be as effective playing off the shoulder. And he was never a Kane/shearer like poacher. He has quality in that left foot though and he actually does have an eye for a pass when he chooses to look for it.


So he gets injured on purpose?


Never implied that he did. He does often get injured, if he can somehow manage to avoid that, is what I said.


How can a player avoid getting injured? Do you mean not playing hard and staying away from opponents?

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Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Originally Posted By redordead13
I'll just say it sounded mighty racist then.


I don't think Gypsy is a race. You may have found it offensive or disappointing but unless you're of Gypsy decent it shouldn't offend you.


Why would it offend someone of Gypsy's decent? I mean if you say a Gypsy is offended by being called one, others shouldn't be?

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Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Originally Posted By redordead13
I'll just say it sounded mighty racist then.


I don't think Gypsy is a race. You may have found it offensive or disappointing but unless you're of Gypsy decent it shouldn't offend you.


Yeah they are. They are a European ehtnic group of darker skin. They were among ethnic groups targeted by the Nazis and killed in concentration camps.

http://www.crystalinks.com/romapeople.html

Used as a racial epithet pejorative for "shifty, lazy, dishonest, crafty, etc."

So the common use is rather crass and a bit bigoted. I don't have to be one of them to point that out.

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Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Originally Posted By redordead13
I'll just say it sounded mighty racist then.


I don't think Gypsy is a race. You may have found it offensive or disappointing but unless you're of Gypsy decent it shouldn't offend you.


Why would it offend someone of Gypsy's decent? I mean if you say a Gypsy is offended by being called one, others shouldn't be?


Not really. If someone called me a cockney i wouldn't be offended because I'm scouse.

Someone called studge a gypsy and another takes offence?

Anyway it's only my opinion which usually isn't worth much so I'll leave it there.

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Originally Posted By redordead13
Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Originally Posted By redordead13
I'll just say it sounded mighty racist then.


I don't think Gypsy is a race. You may have found it offensive or disappointing but unless you're of Gypsy decent it shouldn't offend you.


Yeah they are. They are a European ehtnic group of darker skin. They were among ethnic groups targeted by the Nazis and killed in concentration camps.

http://www.crystalinks.com/romapeople.html

Used as a racial epithet pejorative for "shifty, lazy, dishonest, crafty, etc."

So the common use is rather crass and a bit bigoted. I don't have to be one of them to point that out.


Ok.

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Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
Originally Posted By redordead13
I'll just say it sounded mighty racist then.


I don't think Gypsy is a race. You may have found it offensive or disappointing but unless you're of Gypsy decent it shouldn't offend you.


Why would it offend someone of Gypsy's decent? I mean if you say a Gypsy is offended by being called one, others shouldn't be?


Not really. If someone called me a cockney i wouldn't be offended because I'm scouse.

Someone called studge a gypsy and another takes offence?

Anyway it's only my opinion which usually isn't worth much so I'll leave it there.


The word was used to describe Sturridge, so the logic doesn't hold. Using a racial epithet to describe a person of color is not the same as them using it to describe me. If someone called me the n-word, I would be confused. If someone uses it to describe a friend of mine who is black, I will be angry. There is a difference, see? One is disenfranchising and othering a person. One isn't, at least not successfully.

Especially when said poster has frequently lambasted him for engaging in elements of traditionally black culture (dancing, hip hop, fashion, etc.) as somehow making him weak and the fact that he's injured somehow more inexcusable.

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Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By ghostgoal
Originally Posted By Vicdamone
Originally Posted By ghostgoal
I honestly think if he learns to play unselfishly, and somehow stops getting injured all the time, he has what it takes to be a quality number 10. I agree he hasn’t got the pace anymore to be as effective playing off the shoulder. And he was never a Kane/shearer like poacher. He has quality in that left foot though and he actually does have an eye for a pass when he chooses to look for it.


So he gets injured on purpose?


Never implied that he did. He does often get injured, if he can somehow manage to avoid that, is what I said.


How can a player avoid getting injured? Do you mean not playing hard and staying away from opponents?


I don’t know how he would avoid getting injured. That’s why I included the prefix “Somehow”. Did all of you fail gcse English or something? What I’m saying isn’t exactly hard to grasp or in any way ambiguous.

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