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Karius has made mistakes all season, what makes you think he will be a top goalkeeper?
two years on the bounce he's been a poor choice, you can't blame the management for that. The problem for Karius is that he needs to get up to speed asap and become a top keeper and we cannot afford to wait for that. He is only 24 and looks promising. But promising is not what we need right now. He is frustrating the same way Lovern is. Good player with a load of mistakes in him.
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Does anybody know the salary Achterberg is on, in relation to other Top 6 clubs First Team Goalkeeping Coach?
I can't find this information anywhere, It'd be interesting to see.
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That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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Playing Career: 98/09 - Tranmere 96/98 - FC Eindhoven 93/96 - NAC Breda Honours: Nadda, Zip, Zilch, Diddly Squat
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Correlation doesn't mean causation, I don't think the evidence is convincing at all. Pre-Achterberg we had significantly better players in midfield and defence. I want to know who the fck is in charge of scouting [oops] goalkeepers like Mingolet and Karius. Accepted. But that's why I said that he has a case to answer. Of course, the next stage would be for the prosecution to prepare the case in full detail and for the defence to have the opportunity to rebut it. If we leave aside the stats that might be affected by other factors such as defence etc., one thing strongly against both Migs and Karius is that their demenour has not improved and they have both been prone to making mistakes which have nothing to do with defenders. Surely the gk coach is answerable for that to som,e extent? Whether they were poor scouting choices should also looked at, but i believe both keepers had good reputations and had won plaudits and/or awards before coming to Anfield.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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So better than what we've got then.I know you have a thing for him but you can only work with what you've got,you think any other coach has the ability of turning Karius into a keeper?
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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So you've just ignored the fact that we've had a significantly worse defence, midfield and goalkeepers during Achterberg's time as a coach. Not to mention that pre-achterberg we had a defensively sound manager in Rafa.
We used to have Mascherano, Reina, Alonso, Gerrard, Hyppia, Carragher; they were all a solid unit; now we have Karius, Lovren, Henderson, Wiji
And you wonder why we concede more. Karius is a liability, it's not the coach's fault he cant polish a turd.
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So you've just ignored the fact that we've had a significantly worse defence, midfield and goalkeepers during Achterberg's time as a coach. Not to mention that pre-achterberg we had a defensively sound manager in Rafa.
We used to have Mascherano, Reina, Alonso, Gerrard, Hyppia, Carragher; they were all a solid unit; now we have Karius, Lovren, Henderson, Wiji
And you wonder why we concede more. Karius is a liability, it's not the coach's fault he cant polish a turd. so what was he doing all this time? if he couldn't improve the keepers shouldn't he have gone to Klopp and said these two are no good? I very much doubt he did that.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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The Guy came straight from retiring as a Goalkeeper at Tranmere Rovers in the 3rd tier to Coaching the reserves and Academy at Liverpool FC in 2009. He then gets made First Team Goalkeeping Coach in 2011 till the present day...I'd like to know just exactly why we have this Fella? There is NO success in his playing career which was at bang average Dutch clubs...FC Eindhoven currently in 2nd tier Dutch Football finishing the season 12th of 20 clubs...NAC Breda in the Top tier finishing 14th this season out of 18 clubs.
To date he has overseen our worst Goalkeeping stats since the 50's.
Again I would just like to see one worthwhile positive in him being with us?
Since he's been with us our Goals Allowed Average has increased by 13.5 Goals a season!
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We've not a had a good keeper since Reina.
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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