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We can keep going around in circles debating FSG, but these folks don't do sentiment, they are hard nosed business people. Klopp was brought in for a purpose to keep us fans engaged and our pockets loose. Klopp was the ideal candidate they knew just how passionate a fanbase this club has worldwide, they could manipulate that with the right tools whilst all the while increasing their initial investment value. It's worked a treat so far for them, 300m to 1.1billion in less than 8 years.

Klopp is a great fit for Liverpool FC because both entities are fueled on passion and belief. However there is going to be a point where that starts to disappear. Klopp's resume although fairly impressive for the short time he's been a Manager is built on getting the best out of players on a tight budget...it worked in Germany for a short while simply because it's a 1 team league. He found a way to topple Bayern Munich for a few seasons until they regrouped and offered more money for the standout players that Klopp had Managed.

The Premier League is not a 1 team league, there are a few clubs who have what would seem endless resources. Klopp can't build a squad with the resources he is being given...he can only get the best out of the 11 players he puts out onto the pitch and then when players get injured, banned or fatigued he has little to no backup.

It's an amazing achievement for us to get to the CL Final this season and we may win it and we can bask in it for another 10+ years like we did the last time we won it. FSG can then sell another one of our star players for huge profit and we can start allover again in producing the next in line to the conveyor belt of a huge profit sale for FSG and again and again and again...
Unless of course FSG sell up and move on.

What's the point of this post you're asking yourselves...well
the point is we are in Groundhog Day...Dejavu...we kid ourselves that this next transfer window FSG will loosen their purse strings and actually make an effort to go after that elusive 1st Premier League title. That those of us who are old enough to remember, the feeling of being Kings of The Top Flight again.
It's an all to familiar sense of delusion we continually kid ourselves with going into the 29th season since we last had that feeling of euphoria. Make no bones about it there is a reason we were 25 points off Man City, our squad is simply not good enough and will continue to not be good enough until serious money is pumped into building it. Keita I'm sure will improve us, but Man City will improve again with 4 or 5 more equally quality players, just like Man Utd will improve and Chelsea and Spurs and Arsenal.

Judged on FSG's history in past transfer windows with us they've pretty much spent up already -54m going into 18/19 season. Those kidding themselves about Coutinho funds need to look at the facts:

2013/2014:
Bought: £ -52 m
Sold: £ 29 m
Net: £ -23 m

2014/2015:
Bought: £ -136 m
Sold: £ 89 m
Net: £ -47 m

2015/2016:
Bought: £ -113 m
Sold: £ 82 m
Net: £ -31 m

2016/2017:
Bought: £ -72 m
Sold: £ 76 m
Net: £ +4 m

2017/2018:
Bought: £ -151 m
Sold: £ 153 m
Net: £ +2 m

Total 2013-2018:
Bought: £ -524 m
Sold: £ 429 m
Net: £ -95 m

Keita cost 56m and is not equated into the above.

I will be watching tomorrow with fingers crossed that we can defy the odds with this wonderful team, but I will not get my hopes up for much else after, unless FSG sell up and GO!

What more do you expect of owners that have no where near the money of City, Chelsea, Utd and to some extent Arsenal? We have a world record signing for a CB and have broken our own transfer record three times in the last two seasons.

We are buying the players Klopp wants whether we have to wait or not. If you believe reports, Klopp was ready to let Phil go in the summer with FSG the reluctant party. I still think that he'd be here right now if Klopp wanted him to be.

We will buy more players that Klopp wants this summer I've no doubt. Strong links to Fekir who'll be another big signing. If he's the player Klopp wants and we have to wait then we'll wait. That will be on Klopp NOT FSG. I'm sure there will be others that he has ear marked too and I'm sure there will be no real restrictions within reason.

We have a relatively thin squad but we have also been a little unlucky to have three midfielders out at once. Most teams would struggle in any position if they have three players out at one time. I think we'll sign more than we sell this summer (of those that matter anyway) so will have a stronger and deeper squad next season.

No one here likes the owners and I'm sure we'd all love to have some City type sugar daddy. But it ain't going to happen and it's hard to argue that we're not going forward under Klopp. You can say they only brought him in to appease us but whatever the reason, it seems to be paying off.

Totally agree.

Fekir looks a real possibility. He's saying why not in interviews. Brilliant signing if true. He's a leader at Lyon, their captain, and full of offensive end product. He would be able to fill in for any of the front 3, and we'd be able to rotate the way we did with Coutinho prior to his December move.

So where exactly is the money coming from?

We are already -54m for the upcoming transfer window, we'll be getting 70m or thereabouts for our CL jaunt this season...still only leaves us with +16m. We've just signed an extended sponsorship deal with Standard Chartered which is an extra 10m on top of the already 30m a season, but that tends to get lost in the "ahem" overheads, along with the huge amount of tv and prem money they've gotten for the last 3 seasons.

Fekir is reputed at 60m which will then take us to -44m net which would be about right,judged on going from 13/14 season onwards, that's if they don't swallow our CL revenue as well!

So where exactly is the money coming from?

We are already -54m for the upcoming transfer window, we'll be getting 70m or thereabouts for our CL jaunt this season...still only leaves us with +16m. We've just signed an extended sponsorship deal with Standard Chartered which is an extra 10m on top of the already 30m a season, but that tends to get lost in the "ahem" overheads, along with the huge amount of tv and prem money they've gotten for the last 3 seasons.

Fekir is reputed at 60m which will then take us to -44m net which would be about right,judged on going from 13/14 season onwards, that's if they don't swallow our CL revenue as well!

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There will be money available but how much is anyone's guess. We're not City, Utd or Chelsea so what is done will be done within reason. Some players will go as is usual but it won't be anyone big.

I remember previous recent summer transfer windows where all the ITK Journo's were bluffed about us spending 100's of millions in a window. Somebody from the club was feeding them lies to try and appease the fans!

Liverpool won't spend £100m this summer - it will be nearer £200m

Reds are expected to splash out in transfer window... but it'll be a lot more than we think.

By Ian Doyle - 08:00, 9 APR 2017

In a world in which supporters indirectly handed over £220million last year to agents, it's become difficult to truly grasp the money washing around football at present.

Each passing year, the numbers become increasingly exorbitant, prices increase, and what seemed outrageous one month is met with a blasé response the next.

But when it recently emerged Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp will be handed a transfer kitty in the region of £100m, there was genuine excitement among Reds fans.

Even to Mino Raiola, that's a fair whack.

Shopping lists were swiftly being drawn up by the Anfield faithful, YouTube being scoured, scouting reports being run on Football Manager.

However, anyone who thinks Liverpool are going to spend £100m this summer is almost certain to be fooled.

It will be a lot, lot more than that.

Consider what £100m gets you these days. Three Sadio Manes for a start, although given the rate of inflation in the market since his arrival last summer, that will now be nearer two.

Liverpool, though, don't just need the starting XI strengthening. The squad sorely lacks depth, not least in key positions.

Suddenly, that £100m doesn't look all that much. Not least when you consider comparative rivals Manchester United spent almost that entire amount on one player last year.

Two £40m signings and a £20m capture sounds decent work but it's nowhere near enough taking into account those seeking pastures new at the end of the season.

Mamadou Sakho, Alberto Moreno, Daniel Sturridge, Lazar Markovic, Lucas Leiva and Kevin Stewart are likely to go, and replacements to at least match their standard won't come cheap.

Here's where it becomes interesting.

Liverpool have improved as a selling club, and are likely to drive hard bargains for most departures.

They are asking £30m for Sakho. Sturridge, you'd imagine, would attract around £20m. Markovic £15m. Moreno likewise, at a push.

There's an extra £80m. With other fringe players and youngsters, it could be nearer £100m.

Fenway Sports Group balanced the books in this manner last summer, but they're learning the hard way to make hay in the Premier League, you must speculate to accumulate.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/fo...-klopp-12868597

Let's face it, we are a status quo team...if we manage a cup run GREAT! But there is nothing serious about the ambition of these Owners other than their nest egg when we are sold.

You need to take Manure owners out of your list as they have put nothing in the club but have actually forked out dividends and interests as they bought the club through a leveraged but out. So the only 2 owners who have spent more of their own money than FSG are the City Sheiks and the Chelsea's Oligarch

The notion that we have £Xm to spend is ridiculous and why anyone would believe that is beyond me? We will have a budget set out and that is what we will stick too. None of these transfers will be in full payments either so it's not like we need £100m to sign X amount of players.

The owners will have ambition within their means. They aren't like City's owners and can't spend like them. We have to build over time which hasn't got us much at all but it's what we have to do. The owners spend as has been proved by you figures above but as they're not City type owners, have to balance the books like any normal business would have to. I'm not sure what else you expect unless you'd like us to spend beyond our means and end up like Leeds?

In the last 4 seasons our nett spend (outgoing & incoming players) is just £24.5m average per season, so unfortunately there IS a very minimal budget set that the Transfer Committee adhere to.