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So saying he got everyone bar one is a bit far fetched if you don’t know who he targeted
I don’t do nervous kop talker buddy Read this very slowly. All of the major players we were linked with publicly, apart from Lemar, we signed. He mentioned in interviews that he was satisfied. Saying that it would appear that he got his targets is a fair statement, because the targets that we saw, we saw him get. That is what I meant using the word appear in my original post. I never said I knew all his targets or whether or not he got them all, only that it looked like he was getting his targets, at least the ones that we could see, and it didn't look like anyone was pinching pennies. I am only commenting on what we can observe, not the interworkings of Jurgen Klopp's brain. I'm not sure what you're point is, getting all bent out of shape over the semantics of what I did or didn't know. The broader point was about whether or not he was being backed. It would appear that he was bewing backed by the management, given the players we signed and how well they have performed. I'm happy with how his transfer record is going. That is my point. Have they Penny pinched with Klopp? He wanted Salah, VVD, Keita, and Lemar. It looked to me like we got everyone on his list last year, except the last minute bid for Lemar, which was completely down to Monaco not wanting to sell, even for 95 million pounds. If anything, it was Klopp who was only interested in his top targets and prefered to wait with Keita and VVD, paying 75 million and 55 million for each respectively. Ok you never said publicly in orig comment (see above) and I think we might of been linked with more publicly than your list ? But any way joe Allen in my opinion fellah is a step back! your opinion is he’s worth a punt ! I’m not bent outa shape angry Pi$$ed off or anything else as I clearly told you if anyone is it’s you because you have been picked up on Allen ok I get it you like your say with no disagreements sorry bout that but I disagree it’s called having an opinion if that’s ok with you fellah No, I said 'looks to me." That means I am making a comment about what is visible and observable to a non-ITK fan like myself. IE what is publicly available. What else would I be able to see? As for the other targets you mention, perhaps you have a point. However, I don't think we were ever in for Joe Hart or Butland, and Klopp has issues with Aubamayang. I don't regard everyone we get tenuously linked with in the Metro as a real target, but maybe that is just me. The ones we actually bid for or linked with by named journalists with a source and a reputation. The Joe Allen crap is from another thread and has no place in this discussion. All I said about Allen was that if we had to pick from relegated players, he'd be a useful squad player because of how thin we are. He's not my first 5th or even 100th choice.
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Have they Penny pinched with Klopp? He wanted Salah, VVD, Keita, and Lemar. It looked to me like we got everyone on his list last year, except the last minute bid for Lemar, which was completely down to Monaco not wanting to sell, even for 95 million pounds.
If anything, it was Klopp who was only interested in his top targets and prefered to wait with Keita and VVD, paying 75 million and 55 million for each respectively. It was the number crunchers who wanted Salah, NOT Klopp! Liverpool scouts ensured Jurgen Klopp signed Mohamed Salah
Last Updated: 17/12/17 9:12am Liverpool scouts made certain Jurgen Klopp signed Mohamed Salah this past summerLiverpool boss Jurgen Klopp has revealed club scouts hounded him to sign Mohamed Salah in the summer. Salah, who joined Liverpool in a five-year deal for £34.3m in June, has proved a revelation since moving to Anfield, scoring 19 goals in 25 games in all competitions this season. Klopp has confirmed it was Liverpool's scouts who ensured the German signed Salah from Roma earlier this year. "Our scouting department did a fantastic job around Mo," said Klopp. "They just didn't get out of our ears about him." "It was, '100 per cent he is ready, he is ready'. They did a great job, absolutely." Salah leads the Premier League goalscoring standings this season, while the Egypt international has also made three assists; statistics that do not surprise Klopp given his understanding of the 25-year old's style. "There is only a short period of the season we have played so far, but already I have been asked if I am surprised by what he is doing," he added. "I could be surprised if I had thought about it because I didn't set out the number of goals I expected from him when we signed him. "I didn't tell him that you have to do this. We knew what we were getting was a very offensive-minded midfielder who plays a lot of games as a striker, but also has the ability to make goals, to set up goals." Salah made just 13 league appearances during a two-year spell at Chelsea between 2014-16 before he was sold to Roma for £12m last year. As a result, Klopp admits he initially completed his own homework following his scouts' guidance before deciding to move for the forward. "We had to have a look at a lot of games he played to see about other parts of his game, too," Klopp said. "But you see now, he is OK. I met him of course at one point and he looks more sturdy. If you watch him only on TV he looks quite skinny." http://www.skysports.com/football/news/1...d-mohamed-salah It looks like they persuaded him by the sound of this, but he had the final call. I'm fine either way. Whoever made the call obviously knows what they are doing.
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Don't get me wrong, it's great the level of player we're now targeting and "eventually" bringing in, it's just the methods now used. You have to ask yourselves what if Man City, Utd, Real Madrid, Chelsea, Bayern Munich or Barcelona were seriously interested in the likes of VVD or Keita, do they go through the same rigmarole as we have?
Klopp should have the ability to bring in who he wants but not at the timescales now involved. As far as being a big draw for attracting players we are now at an all time high in the premier league era, there really shouldn't be any excuses. Our targets are transparent and that can't be a coincidence. Rival clubs targets don't have this long drawn out process that we have to suffer. Is it because our rivals are more professional in their approach? they must be offering better terms that don't rub up the selling club initially. Our approach is a bull in a china shop, starting at not much more than zero and keep going back in with silly increments whilst it's played out to the World's media. Unfortunately FSG don't get it, they haggle unabated which has more often than not cost us, with our targets going elsewhere because another club comes in with a realistic offer and terms.
I don't know how anyone could be happy that transfer windows are exploited by the Owners to the squads detriment.
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[/quote] It looks like they persuaded him by the sound of this, but he had the final call. I'm fine either way. Whoever made the call obviously knows what they are doing. A broken clock gets the time right twice a day, these were the same folks that brought us Baloteli.
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It looks like they persuaded him by the sound of this, but he had the final call. I'm fine either way. Whoever made the call obviously knows what they are doing. A broken clock gets the time right twice a day, these were the same folks that brought us Baloteli. [/quote] Who at the time was highly rated, Milan's talisman and Italy's number 9. Was it a mistake, sure. But they also bought Sturridge, Coutinho, Firmino, Mane, VVD, Milner, Can, Suarez, Henderson, and Robertson. It was very hit and miss with Rodgers, but since Klopp has come in, the balance seems to have been struck.
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Don't get me wrong, it's great the level of player we're now targeting and "eventually" bringing in, it's just the methods now used. You have to ask yourselves what if Man City, Utd, Real Madrid, Chelsea, Bayern Munich or Barcelona were seriously interested in the likes of VVD or Keita, do they go through the same rigmarole as we have?
Klopp should have the ability to bring in who he wants but not at the timescales now involved. As far as being a big draw for attracting players we are now at an all time high in the premier league era, there really shouldn't be any excuses. Our targets are transparent and that can't be a coincidence. Rival clubs targets don't have this long drawn out process that we have to suffer. Is it because our rivals are more professional in their approach? they must be offering better terms that don't rub up the selling club initially. Our approach is a bull in a china shop, starting at not much more than zero and keep going back in with silly increments whilst it's played out to the World's media. Unfortunately FSG don't get it, they haggle unabated which has more often than not cost us, with our targets going elsewhere because another club comes in with a realistic offer and terms.
I don't know how anyone could be happy that transfer windows are exploited by the Owners to the squads detriment.
Well we beat of the likes of City and Chelsea to get VvD. He wanted to join us and waited as we did and I really don't see the problem with that? Had we tried to push something through in the summer, Southampton would've had us and we could've got a transfer ban (makes you wonder why the penny pinching FSG didn't try for that eh?). RBL didn't want to sell Keita and as a rich club, didn't need the money. The best we could do there was to secure his signature for this summer, which we did at a premium to his release clause that kicked in this summer. Again, I really don't see any problem with that and again makes you wonder why the penny pinching FSG didn't take a chance and wait to pay a lower fee for him? I also don't remember much in the way of the mythical lowballing last summer? Salah dragged on a bit but we got him for a few million less than they were asking. There is always negotiations between clubs for players and NO club will jump feet first with what the selling club wants. Why should we? We don't go any lower than other clubs and have now proven that we WILL pay over the odds to get Klopps targets, even if we have to wait a bit. So I'm not really sure what is wrong with what we are doing? We're no City in terms of money so can't act like they do. But for what we do have we're spending and spending well IMO.
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Don't get me wrong, it's great the level of player we're now targeting and "eventually" bringing in, it's just the methods now used. You have to ask yourselves what if Man City, Utd, Real Madrid, Chelsea, Bayern Munich or Barcelona were seriously interested in the likes of VVD or Keita, do they go through the same rigmarole as we have?
Klopp should have the ability to bring in who he wants but not at the timescales now involved. As far as being a big draw for attracting players we are now at an all time high in the premier league era, there really shouldn't be any excuses. Our targets are transparent and that can't be a coincidence. Rival clubs targets don't have this long drawn out process that we have to suffer. Is it because our rivals are more professional in their approach? they must be offering better terms that don't rub up the selling club initially. Our approach is a bull in a china shop, starting at not much more than zero and keep going back in with silly increments whilst it's played out to the World's media. Unfortunately FSG don't get it, they haggle unabated which has more often than not cost us, with our targets going elsewhere because another club comes in with a realistic offer and terms.
I don't know how anyone could be happy that transfer windows are exploited by the Owners to the squads detriment.
Well, City WERE interested in VVD, so that answers itself. And Bayern were linked with Keita as well. The players we have signed for the past 2 years have improved us. Mane, Salah, VVD, and Robertson are all gems. Even if you don't think Karius is good enough, he is better than Migs. The results prove this. When he took over we were an upper mid-table side. Now we are regular champions league participants and in the CL finals to boot. You are making gross exaggerations about the haggling process. They are willing to pay what they think a player is worth, and no more. When they've been able sign the likes of Mane and Salah for less than 50 million, who are you to argue with that? However, with VVD they showed they are willing to pay top dollar or even break records for a player, provided they think he is worth it. P.S. I don't think the word "exploited" means what you think it means.
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It looks like they persuaded him by the sound of this, but he had the final call. I'm fine either way. Whoever made the call obviously knows what they are doing. A broken clock gets the time right twice a day, these were the same folks that brought us Baloteli. [/quote]  am nicking that one
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