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#603072 14/05/18 03:14 PM
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I read some stats earlier about our defence.

We all 'know' our defence is shambolic. Poor. Awful. Weak. The reason we will never challenge etc.

After game 9 this season. We had the 6th worst defence in the league.

This is the interesting bit though.

For the next 29 games. We had the best defence in the league. Conceded the least. So for 75% of the season we had the best defence. Which makes no sense as we are constantly told how poor it is.

This is what Klopp has been saying (I thought he was just trying to be positive.) But every goal we concede gets highlighted and analyised way more than any other team.

I'll post a link but if it breaks the forum rules (it is from a different site) please delete the link.

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2018/05/th...ly-exaggerated/

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Interesting. I think like the article says, it's the way we concede sometimes which must lead to our thinking. We do see some proper school boy stuff at times.

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We should use the 'best midfield in the world' song while we haven't got the best midfield in the world.


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Originally Posted By Mr Bojangles
I read some stats earlier about our defence.

We all 'know' our defence is shambolic. Poor. Awful. Weak. The reason we will never challenge etc.

After game 9 this season. We had the 6th worst defence in the league.

This is the interesting bit though.

For the next 29 games. We had the best defence in the league. Conceded the least. So for 75% of the season we had the best defence. Which makes no sense as we are constantly told how poor it is.

This is what Klopp has been saying (I thought he was just trying to be positive.) But every goal we concede gets highlighted and analyised way more than any other team.

I'll post a link but if it breaks the forum rules (it is from a different site) please delete the link.

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2018/05/th...ly-exaggerated/


The defence has definitely improved since we bought VVD but seems strange that we are the best defence since that.

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Dont let those stats deceive you, we were [oops] throughout the season conceding at every cross, corner, free kick you name it. De gea won the golden glove so Utd had the best defence this year.


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Originally Posted By Snakeye
Dont let those stats deceive you, we were [oops] throughout the season conceding at every cross, corner, free kick you name it. De gea won the golden glove so Utd had the best defence this year.


De Gea won the most clean sheets. That doesn't mean the best defence.

The best defence means least conceded.

And the stats aren't wrong or decieving. After the sh*t show at Wembley when Spurs destroyed us we got our act together and had the best defence from that point on.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Interesting. I think like the article says, it's the way we concede sometimes which must lead to our thinking. We do see some proper school boy stuff at times.


VVD has made a big difference. Robertson has been brilliant and even the keeper has been decent.

Even though our defense has been good of late and even good players make mistakes. It's the schoolboy crap as you say. Which I suppose is good as it means there is still a lot of room for improvement.

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Am sure our defence is not the best if we just look at the last 15 minutes of games.

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Originally Posted By Snakeye
Dont let those stats deceive you, we were [oops] throughout the season conceding at every cross, corner, free kick you name it. De gea won the golden glove so Utd had the best defence this year.


Only three teams conceded less than us last season. City, Utd and Spurs with Chelsea conceding the same. So there's not much to be deceived by really. Like I said earlier, it's not necessarily how many we concede but the way we do.

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I'd only take those stats on board if they were matched with the number of chances we offered up to all comers. Sometimes our not conceding has as much to do with missed opportunities by our competitors. Generally I tend to cast a cold eye on statistics. Also who are the gobshites who compile them and wtf do they know? The old saying: "lies damn lies and statistics" is a law of the universe that will last as a warning to the unwary forever!

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