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Originally Posted By TiredReds
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How many times have we said that about Lovren. The fact is there is always a mistake in him. Even if by some miracle we get past City we're still relying on Lovren not to make a mistake between now and the end of the CL... I'm a big supporter of Klopp but I give criticism where criticism is due. Lovren has blown too many chances now, the fact we're still relying on him is down to the manager. He isnt good enough simple as.



Klopp bought a CB for 75m so can't be blamed for not investing in a CB. He cannot change the whole team. The only question I could have if we should have bought 2 CB for 75m.


Klopp also gave Lovren a new long-term contract despite his consistent poor performances ever since signing for Liverpool.

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I've been disappointed with Matip's performances. I don't think he's at Lovren's level.

But then Lovren's level of performances vary quite a lot from shockingly poor against Spurs to other games where he has been superb and showed how aggressive and dominant he can be.

Both make too many mistakes I think we can all agree on that. And I think most would say Lovren, when he is on his game, is a higher quality defender.

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Originally Posted By Chris2402
Originally Posted By TiredReds
Originally Posted By theanfieldpigeon
How many times have we said that about Lovren. The fact is there is always a mistake in him. Even if by some miracle we get past City we're still relying on Lovren not to make a mistake between now and the end of the CL... I'm a big supporter of Klopp but I give criticism where criticism is due. Lovren has blown too many chances now, the fact we're still relying on him is down to the manager. He isnt good enough simple as.



Klopp bought a CB for 75m so can't be blamed for not investing in a CB. He cannot change the whole team. The only question I could have if we should have bought 2 CB for 75m.


Klopp also gave Lovren a new long-term contract despite his consistent poor performances ever since signing for Liverpool.


He's a good defender. He's not the most popular and he makes mistakes but we need players like him competing for places in the team.

I think there is a reason why our centre back pairing is Van Dijk plus one other and that is because no centre back in our squad has excelled this season, or in fact any season for the last few years.

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We'd be better playing with 10 men than having that liability of a tosser playing for us.
God help us now. eek

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Klopp signed 3 CBs, 2 of whom are starter quality. The problem is one of them is a sicknote.

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Originally Posted By redordead13
Klopp signed 3 CBs, 2 of whom are starter quality. The problem is one of them is a sicknote.


I read that Klavan is also injured, when did he last play?

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Last time I seen him play was in May at Eurovision.

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Yep, Klavan, Matip and Gomez are all out tomorrow.

With Can also unavailable we only have 2 senior cb's left in the squad!

God help us!

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Originally Posted By sixtiesred
We get a lot of injuries ?


Matip has been injury prone since we got him, I believe in Germany he was also out injured allot, I guess that's why we managed to pick him up as a free transfer without any rival clubs outbidding us, he's a decent CB when fit, but we need someone more reliable.

I expect he will remain in the group of 3 or 4 CB including Gomez, none of our CB have showed anything to show they should be a first team starter alongside VvD, this is Lovren's chance, but how many times have we said this before? lets hope he puts in a storming performance tomorrow.

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Showing off, are we? laugh

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