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Top post and worthy of a trophy Ben but you don't need one as your quality point is there for all to see.
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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Stuart Pearce.
Les Ferdinand
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Harry Kane
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Gary Lineker
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My favourite forward of recent times is Torres (I believe I'm a minority though). Between Salah and Suarez, I prefer Salah although Suarez was more all rounded as a player. I just think it's really important to have pace up front so we can punish teams on the counter or teams who defend high up. We had that with sturridge and sterling previously when suarez was around and now salah and mane gives us that. I'm with you there. As much as I loved Suarez, Torres should be held in just as high regard for me. He was brilliant for us and it's a shame that he tainted that with the way he moved. Torres was a tremendous player, I never understood why the fans turned against him over the move, we were all over the place under H&G for his last year with a fire sale going on, selling players like Alonso & Mascherano, Hodgson brought in as manager, the club being dragged through the courts nearly going bust, as it is he did us a favour as he was crocked and we managed to get #50 million for him, he was never the same after the injury In 2010, real shame.
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Stuart Pearce.
Les Ferdinand
Jermaine Defoe
Harry Kane
Gaizka mendieta
Shay Given
Gary Linekeris
All won next to nothing. All were bloody brilliant.
Have to agree with those names all fantastic players but worthy of the world class tag alongside Gullit, VanBasten, Maradonna, Raul, Zidane, Henri ? I think not, don't want to take anything away from those players you just mentioned as they were top top players but did they all reach the pinnacle....not for me... There is one player you left out, probably the greatest English midfielder of his generation and for the past thirty years...a certain Paul Gascogne....as good as he was he never reached the pinnacle and wasn't world class either...opinions are great, we all have them...
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My favourite forward of recent times is Torres (I believe I'm a minority though). Between Salah and Suarez, I prefer Salah although Suarez was more all rounded as a player. I just think it's really important to have pace up front so we can punish teams on the counter or teams who defend high up. We had that with sturridge and sterling previously when suarez was around and now salah and mane gives us that. I'm with you there. As much as I loved Suarez, Torres should be held in just as high regard for me. He was brilliant for us and it's a shame that he tainted that with the way he moved. I loved Torres, and even after he left the way he did, I didn't really hate him the way some did. It broke my heart, but I understood. Suarez was a more complete player by far though. Torres had brilliant movement and striking/finishing technique, but Suarez could do more, on and off the ball. Torres was lethal, but after that knee injury, he was never the same.
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Le tissier
Stuart Pearce.
Les Ferdinand
Jermaine Defoe
Harry Kane
Gaizka mendieta
Shay Given
Gary Linekeris
All won next to nothing. All were bloody brilliant.
Have to agree with those names all fantastic players but worthy of the world class tag alongside Gullit, VanBasten, Maradonna, Raul, Zidane, Henri ? I think not, don't want to take anything away from those players you just mentioned as they were top top players but did they all reach the pinnacle....not for me... There is one player you left out, probably the greatest English midfielder of his generation and for the past thirty years...a certain Paul Gascogne....as good as he was he never reached the pinnacle and wasn't world class either...opinions are great, we all have them... Alan Shearer only won 1 major trophy, but he's the greatest striker the league has ever seen.
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The most successful player ever I think is Maxwell.
A Brazilian left back. Played for Barca. PSG. Ajax. All while those clubs were winning.
He really wasn't very good. But if trophies are what make you great then he is the greatest of all time.
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Stuart Pearce.
Les Ferdinand
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Harry Kane
Gaizka mendieta
Shay Given
Gary Linekeris
All won next to nothing. All were bloody brilliant.
Have to agree with those names all fantastic players but worthy of the world class tag alongside Gullit, VanBasten, Maradonna, Raul, Zidane, Henri ? I think not, don't want to take anything away from those players you just mentioned as they were top top players but did they all reach the pinnacle....not for me... There is one player you left out, probably the greatest English midfielder of his generation and for the past thirty years...a certain Paul Gascogne....as good as he was he never reached the pinnacle and wasn't world class either...opinions are great, we all have them... Alan Shearer only won 1 major trophy, but he's the greatest striker the league has ever seen. oh I see, so it's not about where you scored your goals or what level the goals were scored at it's just the most goals...that's why you have put Alan Shearer at the top.... Gonna go with what you say then so this is the new order of who the best was based on goals like you said... Alan Shearer better than Rushie Tony Cottee better than Gary Lineker John Aldridge..Ally MCoist and Stevie Bull all better than Kenny Dalglish.. Forget levels, how important the goals were or what the goals meant as regards winning trophies....it seems it's based on amounts...
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So it doesn't matter how good you were it's based on trophies won?
Maxwell wasnt even the best brazilan left back. But he's the greatest player of all time.
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Le tissier
Stuart Pearce.
Les Ferdinand
Jermaine Defoe
Harry Kane
Gaizka mendieta
Shay Given
Gary Linekeris
All won next to nothing. All were bloody brilliant.
Have to agree with those names all fantastic players but worthy of the world class tag alongside Gullit, VanBasten, Maradonna, Raul, Zidane, Henri ? I think not, don't want to take anything away from those players you just mentioned as they were top top players but did they all reach the pinnacle....not for me... There is one player you left out, probably the greatest English midfielder of his generation and for the past thirty years...a certain Paul Gascogne....as good as he was he never reached the pinnacle and wasn't world class either...opinions are great, we all have them... Alan Shearer only won 1 major trophy, but he's the greatest striker the league has ever seen. oh I see, so it's not about where you scored your goals or what level the goals were scored at it's just the most goals...that's why you have put Alan Shearer at the top.... Gonna go with what you say then so this is the new order of who the best was based on goals like you said... Alan Shearer better than Rushie Tony Cottee better than Gary Lineker John Aldridge..Ally MCoist and Stevie Bull all better than Kenny Dalglish.. Forget levels, how important the goals were or what the goals meant as regards winning trophies....it seems it's based on amounts... If Tony Cotee has scored more goals than Lineker then it must be because he played less, so you are talking shyte again
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