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Originally Posted By redordead13
There was at least one penalty shout, but that isn't the point. We were out-thought today/ They didn't just park the bus, they had a plan and it worked. They took their chances, and we didn't.


Yep, they didn't park the bus. We can't have any complaints really. Jose got his tactics spot on and they got a bit lucky with our inexperienced RB. Another lesson learned.

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I was waiting for the lads to get angry and step it up, but it didn't happen. I was disappointed how United were tougher and hungrier than us and our light-weight pretty football just didn't cut it.

We need a few lions in this team.

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Toothless performance and for the first 25 mins we played with fear and without pace. Didn't cover ourselves with any glory. The ref didn't officiate wel enough as well.

Kloop should know this by now that JM will park the bus. He should have switched mane and salah for awhile if the latter was ineffective.

Once again mistakes screwed the team over. Wonder how long kloop will ring the changes for lovren. I don't blame TAA that just inexperience and he will be better for it.

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Originally Posted By sixtiesred
A draw would of been fairish but end of day we weren’t good enough let stupid goals happen again and we really do need a top notch all out striker IMO


Don't think it was about a striker yesterday, we were not organised to defend long balls. Mourinho got it right, get his midfielders to defend and play long balls bypassing his midfield. TAA was left to defend on his own. The tactic should have been to but a midfielder with Lukaku for the high balls, but we do not have such a defensive midfielder. Maybe we could have played with 3 central defenders, but that is wise after the event.

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The problem we have and have always had under Klopp and that's if our plan A doesn't work there is certainly no plan B...this is a major flaw in Klopps managerial make up and one which will be ruthless punished in the Champioms League...

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20 minutes to go I was fairly confident we'd at least find an equaliser, but nothing fell right.

Unfortunately we'll always have weaknesses in the team when others can fill slots like RB for £40-50m. TAA looks a promising player but showed his inexperience. Lovren was bullied all day but VVD should've been picking Lukaku up, or Can tracked back.

Mane often looks a shell of the player he was. Just zero confidence and seems to choose the wrong option every time.

Top 4's still on and hoping for a favourable CL draw so all's good.

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A huge problem playing teams like United and we are at a disadvantage going out onto the pitch with the same positions and plan. Klopp has to be cuter in these games and be willing to immediately change our setup when it is blatantly obvious that players are targeted. Within the first 10 minutes yesterday it was obvious Salah was being man marked and United were targeting our right side where TAA was. We should have switched Mane and Salah to either side and put Milner at RB or brought Gomez on.
Our middle was also missing that creative midfielder who can unlock stubborn teams, we had been fortunate for the last couple of months without Coutinho or replacing him but yesterdays game showed why we need this kind of player.

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Originally Posted By Pickles
A huge problem playing teams like United and we are at a disadvantage going out onto the pitch with the same positions and plan. Klopp has to be cuter in these games and be willing to immediately change our setup when it is blatantly obvious that players are targeted. Within the first 10 minutes yesterday it was obvious Salah was being man marked and United were targeting our right side where TAA was. We should have switched Mane and Salah to either side and put Milner at RB or brought Gomez on.
Our middle was also missing that creative midfielder who can unlock stubborn teams, we had been fortunate for the last couple of months without Coutinho or replacing him but yesterdays game showed why we need this kind of player.




none of us are managers but the easiest decision of all was to swap VVD over with Lovren to combat Lukaku in the air...this for me is the most alarming thing about Klopps incompetency as a manager, how could we see it and he couldn't....

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Originally Posted By Pickles
A huge problem playing teams like United and we are at a disadvantage going out onto the pitch with the same positions and plan. Klopp has to be cuter in these games and be willing to immediately change our setup when it is blatantly obvious that players are targeted. Within the first 10 minutes yesterday it was obvious Salah was being man marked and United were targeting our right side where TAA was. We should have switched Mane and Salah to either side and put Milner at RB or brought Gomez on.
Our middle was also missing that creative midfielder who can unlock stubborn teams, we had been fortunate for the last couple of months without Coutinho or replacing him but yesterdays game showed why we need this kind of player.




none of us are managers but the easiest decision of all was to swap VVD over with Lovren to combat Lukaku in the air...this for me is the most alarming thing about Klopps incompetency as a manager, how could we see it and he couldn't....


He didn't swap anything as Lukaku is a C.F. and therefore doesn't have any specific zone to cover as opposed to Centre backs. Were you not saying recently that VVD is the worst of our centre back, so what are you gloating about Bluenose?

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Originally Posted By Pickles
A huge problem playing teams like United and we are at a disadvantage going out onto the pitch with the same positions and plan. Klopp has to be cuter in these games and be willing to immediately change our setup when it is blatantly obvious that players are targeted. Within the first 10 minutes yesterday it was obvious Salah was being man marked and United were targeting our right side where TAA was. We should have switched Mane and Salah to either side and put Milner at RB or brought Gomez on.
Our middle was also missing that creative midfielder who can unlock stubborn teams, we had been fortunate for the last couple of months without Coutinho or replacing him but yesterdays game showed why we need this kind of player.




none of us are managers but the easiest decision of all was to swap VVD over with Lovren to combat Lukaku in the air...this for me is the most alarming thing about Klopps incompetency as a manager, how could we see it and he couldn't....


He didn't swap anything as Lukaku is a C.F. and therefore doesn't have any specific zone to cover as opposed to Centre backs. Were you not saying recently that VVD is the worst of our centre back, so what are you gloating about Bluenose?
so you saying VVD could not of just tracked him when he came into areas which were dangerous to us....
What I have said about VVD is that it is too early to say he has improved us as all the teams we have played since he joined have offere no attacking threat and the only ones he has played against that have he has looked poor, West Brom, Spurs where he gave away a penalty and yesterday against United, by the way look at his positioning when Mata missed the chance just before half time, it was disgraceful from a 75 million pound player...

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