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Re: Is a decent run in the CL enough ?
TrueRed #597730 08/03/18 12:00 AM
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Re: Is a decent run in the CL enough ?
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Originally Posted By swapshop
Any Club that wins silverware has had a better season than a club that has not apart from if you win it and maybe get relegated, having said that I know a few Wigan Athletic fans who still would still rather keep the FA Cup win than staying up when they were relegated a few days later.


Today, playing in the CL is more prestigious than winning a cup for any player and manager. CL is like the world cup for clubs. For clubs like Wigan it would be different as they know CL is too much for them, thus their target is a cup.

Otherwise, did you ask Dunk before returning?

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Re: Is a decent run in the CL enough ?
TrueRed #597741 08/03/18 08:30 AM
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Oh dear. The sad little fukker is back.

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Re: Is a decent run in the CL enough ?
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So what's better....qualifying for the Champions League for the next ten seasons and nothing else...or......winning three FA Cups and maybe four League Cups over the next ten seasons and not qualifying..simple enough question about what is the better return...
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Well qualifying for the CL brings in more revenue and attracts better players. So logically with better players, the team will improve and have better chances in the league and the cups. Factor that in for ten seasons and the probability ratios improve.
Not qualifying for CL but winning those cups does not equate to having more funds and being able to attract better players. Heck, it may also mean struggling in the league as some past cup winners have shown.
From there you’ll have more things to say about bad league performances blah blah blah.
Re: Is a decent run in the CL enough ?
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Originally Posted By swapshop
So what's better....qualifying for the Champions League for the next ten seasons and nothing else...or......winning three FA Cups and maybe four League Cups over the next ten seasons and not qualifying..simple enough question about what is the better return...


Yay another hypothetical question.

Seeing as we have neither qualified for the CL for the next 10 years or won anything 10 years in advance. Let's just answer the original question.

Yes a good run in the CL and 2nd or 4th place is good enough as it shows progress. No matter how small.

We have a team that looks good and is starting to look balanced. We have a team that is good to watch. We have a team that is feared and admired.

I'm very happy at the minute. We've come a long way since Rodgers and Kenny.
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Originally Posted By swapshop
Any Club that wins silverware has had a better season than a club that has not apart from if you win it and maybe get relegated, having said that I know a few Wigan Athletic fans who still would still rather keep the FA Cup win than staying up when they were relegated a few days later.
thats going well for them .
Re: Is a decent run in the CL enough ?
TrueRed #597763 08/03/18 10:58 AM
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Last season, United won 1 European and 2 domestic trophies and got into the CL.

In 2005, we won the CL and ended up 6th in the league, only qualifying for the Europa but ending up in the CL after a ton of bitchin'.

Sooo, comparing the 2, who had the better season?

Head say's United last season but if it was a choice of either or who would ever want to wish away Istanbul !
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Originally Posted By TrueRed
Last season, United won 1 European and 2 domestic trophies and got into the CL.

In 2005, we won the CL and ended up 6th in the league, only qualifying for the Europa but ending up in the CL after a ton of bitchin'.

Sooo, comparing the 2, who had the better season?

Head say's United last season but if it was a choice of either or who would ever want to wish away Istanbul !
ok let's talk about Istanbul...somebody mentioned about Wigan not wanting to swap there cup final win even tho they got relagated because they would never win the cup again...we that same logic applies to us with the Champions league as we will never again win that....if you are a so called big Club Winning like we did in Istanbul is not worth a carrot unless you build on it or use it as a springboard to better things....we did neither...from that point of view Istanbul was meaningless....if you said to a United fan, Madrid, Barca or Man City you can win in Istanbul like us but for the next thirteen years you would only win two domestic trophies would they settle for that....deffo not....
Re: Is a decent run in the CL enough ?
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Originally Posted By swapshop
Originally Posted By TrueRed
Last season, United won 1 European and 2 domestic trophies and got into the CL.

In 2005, we won the CL and ended up 6th in the league, only qualifying for the Europa but ending up in the CL after a ton of bitchin'.

Sooo, comparing the 2, who had the better season?

Head say's United last season but if it was a choice of either or who would ever want to wish away Istanbul !
ok let's talk about Istanbul...somebody mentioned about Wigan not wanting to swap there cup final win even tho they got relagated because they would never win the cup again...we that same logic applies to us with the Champions league as we will never again win that....if you are a so called big Club Winning like we did in Istanbul is not worth a carrot unless you build on it or use it as a springboard to better things....we did neither...from that point of view Istanbul was meaningless....if you said to a United fan, Madrid, Barca or Man City you can win in Istanbul like us but for the next thirteen years you would only win two domestic trophies would they settle for that....deffo not....


Wtf are you talking about?
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