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Of course, if we with the CL then all sins are forgiven but is qualification to next seasons CL and a quarter final finish enough to detract the nay sayer's about this seasons achievements?

I suppose you could ask if winning the Milk Cup and no CL progression into the knockout stages this season would be better?

I'm thinking that while our season is still alive in some form at this stage and we gain CL qualification for next season, then yes, it has been successful.

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Season should be defined in winning trophies and trophies alone, unless ofcorse you want to change what we stand for.

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Short answer: yes.


We have improved massively, and if we ever want to win major trophies again, pulling the plug would set us back majorly.

We still have a shot at the CL and have made the quarters. We will qualify next season, and we could finish as high as second. That is substantial improvement.

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Originally Posted By TrueRed
Of course, if we with the CL then all sins are forgiven but is qualification to next seasons CL and a quarter final finish enough to detract the nay sayer's about this seasons achievements?

I suppose you could ask if winning the Milk Cup and no CL progression into the knockout stages this season would be better?

I'm thinking that while our season is still alive in some form at this stage and we gain CL qualification for next season, then yes, it has been successful.
football is the same as it was donkeys years ago but the goal post for how success is measured has slightly moved.

there is a new degree of successful season

winning the league and cl is the most important and is the pinnacle of success

finishing in the top four doesnt give you any trophies or titles but it does give you ££££, fame and in turn help attract better players and bigger sponsorship deals. top for now a days is a bigger bonus then winning the FA cup or carling cup

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Originally Posted By *** Suso ***
Originally Posted By TrueRed
Of course, if we with the CL then all sins are forgiven but is qualification to next seasons CL and a quarter final finish enough to detract the nay sayer's about this seasons achievements?

I suppose you could ask if winning the Milk Cup and no CL progression into the knockout stages this season would be better?

I'm thinking that while our season is still alive in some form at this stage and we gain CL qualification for next season, then yes, it has been successful.
football is the same as it was donkeys years ago but the goal post for how success is measured has slightly moved.

there is a new degree of successful season

winning the league and cl is the most important and is the pinnacle of success

finishing in the top four doesnt give you any trophies or titles but it does give you ££££, fame and in turn help attract better players and bigger sponsorship deals. top for now a days is a bigger bonus then winning the FA cup or carling cup

So who had the better season last season then...us or United...case rested....

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Originally Posted By *** Suso ***
Originally Posted By TrueRed
Of course, if we with the CL then all sins are forgiven but is qualification to next seasons CL and a quarter final finish enough to detract the nay sayer's about this seasons achievements?

I suppose you could ask if winning the Milk Cup and no CL progression into the knockout stages this season would be better?

I'm thinking that while our season is still alive in some form at this stage and we gain CL qualification for next season, then yes, it has been successful.
football is the same as it was donkeys years ago but the goal post for how success is measured has slightly moved.

there is a new degree of successful season

winning the league and cl is the most important and is the pinnacle of success

finishing in the top four doesnt give you any trophies or titles but it does give you ££££, fame and in turn help attract better players and bigger sponsorship deals. top for now a days is a bigger bonus then winning the FA cup or carling cup

So whose fans had the better 2016/17 season...us or Arsenal...

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Originally Posted By swapshop
Originally Posted By *** Suso ***
Originally Posted By TrueRed
Of course, if we with the CL then all sins are forgiven but is qualification to next seasons CL and a quarter final finish enough to detract the nay sayer's about this seasons achievements?

I suppose you could ask if winning the Milk Cup and no CL progression into the knockout stages this season would be better?

I'm thinking that while our season is still alive in some form at this stage and we gain CL qualification for next season, then yes, it has been successful.
football is the same as it was donkeys years ago but the goal post for how success is measured has slightly moved.

there is a new degree of successful season

winning the league and cl is the most important and is the pinnacle of success

finishing in the top four doesnt give you any trophies or titles but it does give you ££££, fame and in turn help attract better players and bigger sponsorship deals. top for now a days is a bigger bonus then winning the FA cup or carling cup

So whose fans had the better 2016/17 season...us or Arsenal...
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Originally Posted By swapshop
Originally Posted By *** Suso ***
Originally Posted By TrueRed
Of course, if we with the CL then all sins are forgiven but is qualification to next seasons CL and a quarter final finish enough to detract the nay sayer's about this seasons achievements?

I suppose you could ask if winning the Milk Cup and no CL progression into the knockout stages this season would be better?

I'm thinking that while our season is still alive in some form at this stage and we gain CL qualification for next season, then yes, it has been successful.
football is the same as it was donkeys years ago but the goal post for how success is measured has slightly moved.

there is a new degree of successful season

winning the league and cl is the most important and is the pinnacle of success

finishing in the top four doesnt give you any trophies or titles but it does give you ££££, fame and in turn help attract better players and bigger sponsorship deals. top for now a days is a bigger bonus then winning the FA cup or carling cup

So who had the better season last season then...us or United...case rested....
utd becasue they win silverware and got into the CL

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Any Club that wins silverware has had a better season than a club that has not apart from if you win it and maybe get relegated, having said that I know a few Wigan Athletic fans who still would still rather keep the FA Cup win than staying up when they were relegated a few days later.

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Your stomach has to produce a new layer of mucus every 2 weeks otherwise it will digest itself.
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