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But he did not emerge from the Rafa years did he?

He left no?

but he organises the defence better than any other keeper in the world to stop him having to face many shots - that is the main art of a goal keeper and why every team that given plays in concedes bucket loads of goals because he is a great shot stopper but can't organise a defence

stats are only a small part to a player theres too many aspects to look at a players game. are these stats last season or for the cumilative seasons?

partially agree... But you need a Hyypia for organising a defense.

dunno clemence never needed a hyypia, shilton never needed one either ..... what they need is a settled defence that doesn't include slow old greeks with the turning circle of a number 59 bus

alonso was there during the rafa years so how would he not have emerged?

Without meaning to sound offensive, go look up the definition of the word emerge, and see what context it was used in. Alonso left.

i would say anything 20 million plus would be acceptable

Then how and where did Alonso emerge from??

I never said he did, he left. And why?