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Totally correct, our defence just looked as usual despite signing a world record CB

But we need to give him some time

The Cup game against West Brom would have been a very different game if we had Coutinho pulling the strings and providing the creativity. He's a Major loss and it can be seen in our play since he was sold.

We scored 2 and missed a penalty, why did we need more creativity? 2 or 3 goals are not enough to win a home game against a club fighting relegation? We also scored 4 against City without Coutinho, so you are talking nonsense. We will have a problem if one of our top 3 is out, but not so far.

What Vish said. No Coutinho wasn't the problem no matter how you look at it.

Given our defence we needed to out score most sides, and that was the case when we had Coutinho as well, but we're not out scoring them now, as can be seen from the two games before last. Those with eyes to see can see the difference in our performance, and those who'd prefer not to see it don't.

Since we sold him, we've scored 9 in 4 games and that includes not scoring against Swansea. All my eyes are seeing is that we CAN still score so we do still have creativity. You are also choosing to see what you want to to support your argument.

Our problem is and always has been at the back. We scored 2 against West Brom (despite our lack of creativity against teams that park the bus ) yet we can't stop a team that has scored only 19 in 24 matches in the league from getting three! How does that have anything to do with selling Coutinho?

None of us really wanted Phil to go now but if the money was used wisely we could have ended the month much better as a team. We DO have creativity in the squad as has been seen since he left and before he left when he was out 'injured'. But had we bought a top goalie or another top defender to go with VvD and tightened up significantly at the back, the unit as a whole would be better IMO. That didn't happen for whatever reason so we will continue to suffer in games regardless of how many we score.

Of course defence has been crap for yonks but that has little to do with our loss of creativity since selling Coutinho, the difference in our performance is obvious to anyone who follows football. Believe it or not wilkij, youre sidekick on here even raised the question of using Coutinho in defence, and asked me what difference that would make, or words to that effect....You wouldn't read it in The Beano!!! But that's how far some will go to try and say selling Coutinho has made no difference!

Yet you ignore that we’ve got 9 in four since he left? How are we not creative enough?

And who is my ‘sidekick’?

So we conceded 3 against WBA, 3 against City because we didn't have Coutinho in the team, right? How did we score 4 against City and 2 against Swansea (missing a penalty), 3 against Huddesfield without Coutinho, maybe with him we would have doubled that. Do you understand football? Don't think so