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[quote=red4life][quote=perthkop]i' am an indian, lfc fan at heart...

whts wrong with an indian takeover?
I think with rich billionaire owners you are heading down the same roads as Chelsea and Man City where you are not earning your success instead you are just getting it given to you as a present, this is not how I like my club to be run. When you have this type of regime it breeds greedy mercenary players wanting to sign for your club simply because they can earn a kings ransom in wages rather than having and real love or affection towards the Club, it's people or the City it plays it's football in, you only have to look at Robinho at City to see what can happen. Succes which is earned the right way will always taste sweeter than success provided by a rich benefactor with deep pockets.


How can success be achieved first and foremost against the clubs with that sort of money?? There simply is no way of achieving success in the right way any more, those days are gone. Maybe if FIFA introduce some sort of system where by you can only spend what you create, which I believe is in the pipeline then it will create that environment again but are you prepared to wait until then, I for one have waited long enough for success in the top flight and I'll take a few rupee's to get us back on track again and bring us short term success, and a long term solution (Stadium, global marketing) to once again achieve success in the "right way".

In response to this thread in general, I understand Ambani is a rich fella and I want to believe you but I'm going to need a bit more than "I know because I'm an Indian" to convince me of his intentions.
But if you can appoint the right manager then you dont need to have a rich billionaire owner buying you players as presents, the right manager will be astute in the transfer market in bringing in the right players rather than the most expensive players. If it was all about bringing in the most expensive players then why did'nt United win leagues in the 70's and 80's instead of us because they always outspent us every season, it's because we always had a better manager than them and the club was being run in the right way, always spending within our means. [/quote]



That (appointing the right manager) is easier said than done, let alone a manager who can bring in the right players. Its a romantic idea and I too would love to see it but I honestly believe its not possible in todays environment. The expensive players are expensive for a reason, lets not forget Rafa tried to get the right players to balance the team within a constrained budget, his so called "leg to balance the table" (or something to that extent). [/quote]well thats just up to the club to bring in the right manager who can do it then is'nt it, I know it's not easy but thats the challenge we face. I think a rich billionaire owner like what City and Chelsea have will be the begining of the end for our club as we know it, the traditions we have built the club on are slowly evaporating as it is and it will be far far worse if they come in. If we get rich owners it will breed even more new, spoilt, glory hunting supporters than what we have now, we will also attract the mercenery footballers worse than we have ever known, sorry this is a road I really dont want the club to go down. I would settle for someone just to come in and wipe out the debt, then we can manage the club in the right way as it should of been from the start, not spending money we dont have or rich billionaires using our club as a rich mans toy.

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True we don't want to attract the money hungry footballers, but that makes it more important to keep hold of guys like Kenny. And the more ex-players we bring back to the club in a certain capacity will make sure we have the right attitude at the club and the good old days along with everything the club stood for will not be forgotten.

While I hear what you're saying and agree with you, I don't think it's a viable option with the current climate in world football.

If we truly want to return to the days of old, we will more than likey be fighting survival instead of fighting to win the league.


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True we don't want to attract the money hungry footballers, but that makes it more important to keep hold of guys like Kenny. And the more ex-players we bring back to the club in a certain capacity will make sure we have the right attitude at the club and the good old days along with everything the club stood for will not be forgotten.

While I hear what you're saying and agree with you, I don't think it's a viable option with the current climate in world football.

If we truly want to return to the days of old, we will more than likey be fighting survival instead of fighting to win the league.
But thats where appointing the right manager comes in, it's going to be such an important decision given we are at a crossroads in the history of the club, if we get the right manager we can still challenge for a top 6 place each season but if we get it wrong it will almost certainly mean mid table mediocrity for the foreseeable future.

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True we don't want to attract the money hungry footballers, but that makes it more important to keep hold of guys like Kenny. And the more ex-players we bring back to the club in a certain capacity will make sure we have the right attitude at the club and the good old days along with everything the club stood for will not be forgotten.

While I hear what you're saying and agree with you, I don't think it's a viable option with the current climate in world football.

If we truly want to return to the days of old, we will more than likey be fighting survival instead of fighting to win the league.
But thats where appointing the right manager comes in, it's going to be such an important decision given we are at a crossroads in the history of the club, if we get the right manager we can still challenge for a top 6 place each season but if we get it wrong it will almost certainly mean mid table mediocrity for the foreseeable future.


I hear what you're saying and I do agree. I just don't want people thinking that without investment and the right manager we're going to win the league again.


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Football is not big in India so Ambani is not catering to a domestic audience. He is not a football buff like Roman so why would he buy LFC?

Purely as a business venture and the evaluation that the yanks have of the club, no sane businessman would buy into it for just business reasons.

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True we don't want to attract the money hungry footballers, but that makes it more important to keep hold of guys like Kenny. And the more ex-players we bring back to the club in a certain capacity will make sure we have the right attitude at the club and the good old days along with everything the club stood for will not be forgotten.

While I hear what you're saying and agree with you, I don't think it's a viable option with the current climate in world football.

If we truly want to return to the days of old, we will more than likey be fighting survival instead of fighting to win the league.
But thats where appointing the right manager comes in, it's going to be such an important decision given we are at a crossroads in the history of the club, if we get the right manager we can still challenge for a top 6 place each season but if we get it wrong it will almost certainly mean mid table mediocrity for the foreseeable future.


I hear what you're saying and I do agree. I just don't want people thinking that without investment and the right manager we're going to win the league again.
Liverpool dont win leagues anymore, when we won leagues it was a whole different game, when we won leagues us, Everton, Spurs and Arsenal along with United where the big five, them days have long gone. Just think United, Real Madrid and Barcelona are the giants of the game and will never be overtaken, teams like Chelsea and Man City with there money might win a league or two in between or snatch an odd Champions league but those giants will always be the dominant force in Europe. If we get the right manager then in the next couple of seasons I seriously think we can get back as a top four club maybe at the expense of Arsenal. I would just like an owner who will wipe our debt clean rather than provide us with untold riches, then we can build our club up on the right foundations to set us up for the years ahead, that way when the money bubble in football bursts which wont be long the way it's going we will not be effected as much as others.

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[quote=SA_Red]True we don't want to attract the money hungry footballers, but that makes it more important to keep hold of guys like Kenny. And the more ex-players we bring back to the club in a certain capacity will make sure we have the right attitude at the club and the good old days along with everything the club stood for will not be forgotten.

While I hear what you're saying and agree with you, I don't think it's a viable option with the current climate in world football.

If we truly want to return to the days of old, we will more than likey be fighting survival instead of fighting to win the league.
But thats where appointing the right manager comes in, it's going to be such an important decision given we are at a crossroads in the history of the club, if we get the right manager we can still challenge for a top 6 place each season but if we get it wrong it will almost certainly mean mid table mediocrity for the foreseeable future.


I hear what you're saying and I do agree. I just don't want people thinking that without investment and the right manager we're going to win the league again.
Liverpool dont win leagues anymore, when we won leagues it was a whole different game, when we won leagues us, Everton, Spurs and Arsenal along with United where the big five, them days have long gone. Just think United, Real Madrid and Barcelona are the giants of the game and will never be overtaken, teams like Chelsea and Man City with there money might win a league or two in between or snatch an odd Champions league but those giants will always be the dominant force in Europe. If we get the right manager then in the next couple of seasons I seriously think we can get back as a top four club maybe at the expense of Arsenal. I would just like an owner who will wipe our debt clean rather than provide us with untold riches, then we can build our club up on the right foundations to set us up for the years ahead, that way when the money bubble in football bursts which wont be long the way it's going we will not be effected as much as others.[/quote] no offence but you soound like a blue lol


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[quote=red4life][quote=SA_Red]True we don't want to attract the money hungry footballers, but that makes it more important to keep hold of guys like Kenny. And the more ex-players we bring back to the club in a certain capacity will make sure we have the right attitude at the club and the good old days along with everything the club stood for will not be forgotten.

While I hear what you're saying and agree with you, I don't think it's a viable option with the current climate in world football.

If we truly want to return to the days of old, we will more than likey be fighting survival instead of fighting to win the league.
But thats where appointing the right manager comes in, it's going to be such an important decision given we are at a crossroads in the history of the club, if we get the right manager we can still challenge for a top 6 place each season but if we get it wrong it will almost certainly mean mid table mediocrity for the foreseeable future.


I hear what you're saying and I do agree. I just don't want people thinking that without investment and the right manager we're going to win the league again.
Liverpool dont win leagues anymore, when we won leagues it was a whole different game, when we won leagues us, Everton, Spurs and Arsenal along with United where the big five, them days have long gone. Just think United, Real Madrid and Barcelona are the giants of the game and will never be overtaken, teams like Chelsea and Man City with there money might win a league or two in between or snatch an odd Champions league but those giants will always be the dominant force in Europe. If we get the right manager then in the next couple of seasons I seriously think we can get back as a top four club maybe at the expense of Arsenal. I would just like an owner who will wipe our debt clean rather than provide us with untold riches, then we can build our club up on the right foundations to set us up for the years ahead, that way when the money bubble in football bursts which wont be long the way it's going we will not be effected as much as others.[/quote] no offence but you soound like a blue lol [/quote]I dont simply because am living in the real world while our toff neighbours dont.

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