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Well if you are happy with the perspective after losing against the bottom club Swansea, drawing against WBA, Newcastle, a poor Everton I have nothing to say, enjoy.

You have nothing to say because you know I'm right. We're no worse than the others around us against those sort of teams this season and are better against them than last. Just have a look at the other teams results and you'll see.

Have checked and both won against the bottom 2 teams but yes, United drew against Southampton which is currently in the bottom 3. So I am not sure how you see we are no worse, maybe you could explain.

Well you obviously didn't look hard enough.

Chelsea lost to Palace, West Ham and Burnley. Drew with Everton.

Spurs lost to Leicester but drew with Burnley, Swansea, West Brom, Watford and West Ham.

Arsenal lost to Stoke, Watford and Bournemouth. Drew with Southampton, West Ham and West Brom.

Manure lost to Huddersfield and drew with Stoke, Leicester, Burnley and Southampton.

So how are we any worse than the teams around us other than you basing it on the fact that we lost to the bottom club which is just plain wrong?

Lots of the teams you mentioned above are mid table against which top teams can draw or lose, why are you listing them? I am talking about those in the relegation zone. Leicester is 7th, Burnley 8th, Everton 9th, you might as well put Arsenal who is 6th. What's your logic there?

I’m talking about teams who we traditionally struggle against and who park the bus. But anyway, the simple fact is, despite the loss on Monday, we’ve been better against such teams this season. You’re basing your assumption that we’re not just on the fact that we lost to the bottom club which is a little silly and I thought you were smarter than that?

Hull.

Most teams end up parking the bus against us except City, Arsenal and maybe Chelsea because of our high possession football. The teams we should beat are those at the bottom. This season we have been better against the mid table teams, worse against the top 6 teams and probably worse so far (or about the same) against those in the relegation zone. Overall we have only 1 point more than last season after 24 games. So I don't see great progress. You thought right, I am smarter than what you think now.

We've beaten both Swansea and Southampton this season and the only current bottom three team we haven't is West Brom who we dreww with. We've also beaten Stoke and Brighton who are just one point off the drop zone and drew with Newcastle who are in the same position.

We've beaten Huddersfield who are pne point better off and we've beaten Palace and Bournemouth who are just another point higher. If you go up to 10th place which is just 4 points better off than the relegation places, we've beaten West Ham and drawn against Watford. We could even count Everton as being in the relegation fight as they're only another 2 points better off.

So, from the 12 games we've played against the bottom half teams, all who could struggle to stay up, we've won 8 drawn 3 and lost 1. That's a return of 27 points which isn't that bad considering you have us as being one of the worst teams against the lower teams.

Only an idiot could argue with facts like that Wilki..