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Simple...when he signed for Liverpool he moved up a level in pressure and expectancy unless ofcorse you are saying Liverpool are on the same level as a football club as Southampton...anyway he was able to make that jump and handle it and this season which is his second he has struggled to maintain it which he has openly admitted.....easily cleared up.....
Spangles the CONTRADICTION BUSTER...haha....
...Y.N.W.A... To use your own logic, you often state that Liverpool are at the same levels as clubs like Southampton, West Brom, Everton, etc. Your words not mine. So based on your own words, explain again how he is a one season wonder? Last season Mane started 27 games and scored 13 goals, this season he's scored 6 in 15, so a little behind but his goals against Burnley and Man City suggest strong form.
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Spangles seems to forget we're only in january and there is still half the season to play. He's scored 6 in 15. Still on course for him matching his previous seasons tally. Especially in terms of minutes to goals ratio. That being said, I'm not sure there is as much of a dependency on him now we have salah. Spreading the goals amongst the team means the emphasis wont be so much on Mane just as long as he is still providing a threat and something for the opposition to worry about (which he definitely does). His pace alone and his commitment to the press and making space for other team mates who can be just as if not more prolific, is arguably more important. It is a team game after all, not an individual one. Players scoring massive amounts is fantastic, but as you rightly say, it's a team game, and the 3 points are the most important issue here.
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Spangles seems to forget we're only in january and there is still half the season to play. He's scored 6 in 15. Still on course for him matching his previous seasons tally. Especially in terms of minutes to goals ratio. That being said, I'm not sure there is as much of a dependency on him now we have salah. Spreading the goals amongst the team means the emphasis wont be so much on Mane just as long as he is still providing a threat and something for the opposition to worry about (which he definitely does). His pace alone and his commitment to the press and making space for other team mates who can be just as if not more prolific, is arguably more important. It is a team game after all, not an individual one. Listen I have no problem with your explanation and I think it's good and fair, the whole point I am making is for me...and this is my opinion...Mane is not the same player as he was last season, their maybe reasons for this we don't know but I will maintain he's not the same player and if he himself is coming out with statements admiting he's not at the same level as last season, for me it proves my point...that's all I am saying... Not at the same level and one-season wonder don't mean the same thing. He's still one of the best forwards in the league, and he's scoring at nearly the same rate. COuld he be doing better? Sure. Has he become crap? No.
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Spangles seems to forget we're only in january and there is still half the season to play. He's scored 6 in 15. Still on course for him matching his previous seasons tally. Especially in terms of minutes to goals ratio. That being said, I'm not sure there is as much of a dependency on him now we have salah. Spreading the goals amongst the team means the emphasis wont be so much on Mane just as long as he is still providing a threat and something for the opposition to worry about (which he definitely does). His pace alone and his commitment to the press and making space for other team mates who can be just as if not more prolific, is arguably more important. It is a team game after all, not an individual one. Listen I have no problem with your explanation and I think it's good and fair, the whole point I am making is for me...and this is my opinion...Mane is not the same player as he was last season, their maybe reasons for this we don't know but I will maintain he's not the same player and if he himself is coming out with statements admiting he's not at the same level as last season, for me it proves my point...that's all I am saying... Not at the same level and one-season wonder don't mean the same thing. He's still one of the best forwards in the league, and he's scoring at nearly the same rate. COuld he be doing better? Sure. Has he become crap? No. Nope don't think I have ever said that what I have said is he has struggled to recapture last seasons form which happens to many players in there second season...it's called a one season wonder, that's what people say and it happend to Vardy, Michu,Townsend, Yeboah, Titi Camara, and Roque Sandra Cruz, these were all players who couldn't recapture there first season form. I think Mane has plenty of time to turn it around tho... Oh, the high and MIGHTY voice of reason and fountain of knowledge has spoken.  What a relief. I'll sleep SO much better tonight now. 
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I can't believe reasonable people are debating/trying to argue whether Mane was a one season wonder.
I'd say Klopp's signings have produced more than any other reds manager I can remember and Mane was quite often mentioned as being good '1 in 4 games'. I'd say he's developed at Liverpool and is much much more consistent but players peak and dip. Salah won't score as many in the first half of next season, but that doesn't mean he's 'lost it'. No player improves season after season without fail.
Has no-one here heard the saying 'You can't argue with an idiot'?
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I can't believe reasonable people are debating/trying to argue whether Mane was a one season wonder.
I'd say Klopp's signings have produced more than any other reds manager I can remember and Mane was quite often mentioned as being good '1 in 4 games'. I'd say he's developed at Liverpool and is much much more consistent but players peak and dip. Salah won't score as many in the first half of next season, but that doesn't mean he's 'lost it'. No player improves season after season without fail.
Has no-one here heard the saying 'You can't argue with an idiot'? Only one person is saying Mane is a one season wonder, the Frustrated One.
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Yeah my point was it's that silly, it's not even worth a counter-argument.
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Mane is a great player to have on the pitch, he scores goals, he's very fast and stretches defence's, he's brilliant with the ball at his feet, he grafts from start to finish, he tracks back and he pushes himself to the limit. He's every managers dream player
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Mane is not a one season wonder but he is not having the same impact as last season probably because players have worked out how to negate him. But obviously he is working on that which shows the right attitude
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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He has had a wobbly season so far with some injuries aswell.
Our strengthened squad has also kept him out from some games, which has helped us keep the momentum, but has made his recovery to top form a little slower.
But him scoring some very important goals lately suggests he is now on his back to top form, which will help us massively as we are soon into a very important last stage of the season.
Last edited by van Gogh; 20/01/18 10:52 PM.
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